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8/9/18 FINDINGS GO BACK TO EARLY TIMES IN FRANCE AND ENGLAND---

MY ANCESTOR RICHARD OF LONDON (LATER NAMED RICHARD LE BEL) OWNS LAND IN FRENSHAM, SURREY--

HUGO LE BEL HAD A SON RICHARD OF LONDON, RICHARD OWNED LAND IN FRENSHAM, SURREY in 1190

LE BEL ORIGINAL OWNER OF MANOR OF FRENSHAM BEALE, SURREY-
I noted in Victoria History Of Surrey ref the Manor of Frensham Beale---“The name of the manor is clearly connected with the family of le Bel. Bel, Bele or Beale.”
Victoria History of the County of Surrey, vol 2, p. 609
https://archive.org/stream/cu31924088434760#page/n669/mode/2up/search/609 ----dna21p.493, dna19p.140--4/22/15

EARLY FRENSHAM LAND OWNERS WERE RICHARD OF LONDON SON OF HUGH LE BEL--
We see Hugh le Bel as father of Richard of London ref Frensham , Surrey:
A)- Ricardus de Lond son of Hugonis (Hugh) le Bel-- land in Fermesham with appurtances ca 1190.
The Great Roll of the Pipe—King Henry the Second------(dna20resp.125 and pd4--aug14)
B)- Ricardi de Londonia and Ricardo son of Hugonis mentioned ref a land default in Fernham ca 1210
The Pipe Roll of the Bishopric of Winchester 1210-1211, pp. 38-39
(Frensham, Fermesham and Fernham in Farnham, Surrey-- per Pipe Roll 1210-1211, p.41, p.194)

HERE IS A ROUGH CHART SHOWING MANY OF THOSE MENTIONED BELOW:

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HERE ARE THE PARENTS OF HUGH, FATHER OF RICHARD OF LONDON, LATER RICHARD LE BEL:

1)- BOUCHARD IV DE MONTMORENCY (1077-1132) married after 1114 ADELIZA DE CLERMONT (1075e-1125e)
Bouchard IV de Montmorency (1077-1132)-- His third wife was Adeliza de Clermont (1075e-1125e), he was her second husband.
http://www.geni.com/people/Bouchard-IV-baron-de-Montmorency/6000000003219690 -----dna20p.183, dna21p.348
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc429810561 (dna25pp.98,96)
(records of this marriage and children are at the Thorney Monastery in Cambridgeshire, Huntingdon, England)

THEY HAD THREE SONS---HERVE (b 1115e), HUGO (b 1116e) and GUY (b 1117e)
Adeliza had three sons by her second husband Bouchard IV, they were Herve, Hugo and Guy. (I believe Hugo was the father of Richard of London (b 1135e), later named Richard le Bel)
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc429810561 see footnote [607]----dna20p.177, pd26, ---dna21p.348

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2)- ADELIZA BY HER FIRST HUSBAND HAD A GRANDSON RICHARD DE CLARE (1130-1176, a Knight named STRONGBOW)
Adeliza’s grandson by her first marriage was Richard de Clare (1130-1176), a famous knight that helped capture Ireland in 1171. His nickname was “Strongbow”.
http://www.geni.com/people/Richard-de-Clare-2nd-Earl-of-Pembroke/6000000001446542148 ---dna21p.349, 469

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3)- ADELIZA’S FAMILY AND FRIENDS WERE IN IRELAND---STRONGBOW (grandson of Adeliza de Clermont) ----HERVEY (son of Adeliza )----RICHARD OF LONDON (my ancestor, son of Hugh, nephew of Hervey, grandson of Adeliza, cousin of Strongbow)-----WILLIAM MARSHALL (famous Knight who married Strongbow's daughter)---RICHARD TUITE (ancestor of Richard Tuite who owned St Croix platation my ancestor George Beale managed in 1765).
See details below:

STRONGBOW IN IRELAND---Richard de Clare (1130-1176), 2nd Earl of Pembroke, invaded Ireland ca 1170 with the deposed King of Leinster, Dermot MacMurrough. They captured Leinster, Strongbow married the King’s daughter Aoife MacMurrough and became Lord of Leinster (Leinster included Dublin, Meath, Westmeath, Wexford, Carlow, etc.). They had a daughter Isabel de Clare (1172-1220).

HERVEY IN IRELAND----(Hervey de Monte Maurice (ca 1115e-1189e) was the uncle of Earl Richard (Strongbow).
The Expugnatio Hibernica records that :
"Herveius de Monte Mauricii" was "Ricardi comitis…patruus" (609)
my translation- "Hervey de Monte Maurice" was "Uncle to Earl Richard “...(Strongbow)
[609] Dimock, J. F. (ed.) (1867) Giraldi Cambrensis Opera, Topographia Hibernica, Expugnatio Hibernica (London) Expugnatio Hibernica I, III, p. 230.
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc429810561 see footnote [609]------dna20p.177

" Hervey and Strongbow invaded Ireland together ca 1171. Hervey “ was sent by his nephew, Earl Richard (Strongbow), to Ireland with Robert FitzStephen in 1169 to report on affairs there to the earl.”
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Mount-Maurice,_Hervey_de_(DNB00) ------dna20p.191
Strongbow “proceeded to Waterford, when he found his uncle, Hervey de Monte Maurice, had just arrived from England, with letters from the king...”
https://archive.org/stream/3754681/3754681_djvu.txt -----dna20p.204

RICHARD OF LONDON IN IRELAND—HE WAS GIVEN TOWN OF FETHARD, CO. WEXFORD
Background of Fethard, Wexford---Wexford was granted to Strongbow in 1174 when he became lord of Leinster. Some of this land (Fethard) may have been given to his uncle Hervey. Hervey gave this land to Christ Church, Canterbury prior his death. The church gave Fethard to Herveys nephew Richard of London in 1200.
Richard of London was given Fethard, Wexford, Ireland which “was probably included in the grant of Hervey Mount Maurice...Hervey gave the land to the monks of Christ Church, Canterbury”
https://books.google.com/books?id=Ej5aAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA377&lpg=PA377&dq=cistercian----convent+of+fethard+fethard,+co+wexford&source=bl&ots=Ve9PgpZBCV&sig=-vbUAushRtYr7sDVJx02EQYYfiM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CC8Q6AEwA2oVChMI3am4wfCYyQIVBmseCh24bgYo#v=onepage&q=cistercian----convent%20of%20fethard%20fethard%2C%20co%20wexford&f=false .....dna21p.501, 433, 429
In 1200, the town of Fethard, Wexford was given to Richard of London by Christ Church, Canterbury.
https://books.google.com/books?id=08APVsLCJ4QC&pg=PA360&lpg=PA360&dq=%22richard+of+london%22&source=bl&ots=3xENTzSzUs&sig=ADFe3QrNaNZ52s2a72H6J14fuE0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgUahUKEwjMwYnSquLGAhXGaT4KHZe4Dfw#v=onepage&q=%22richard%20of%20london%22&f=false -----dna21p.422
Fethard is in an area contolled by Strongbow in 1174 as lord of Leinster.
https://books.google.com/books?id=2TxLAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA566&lpg=PA566&dq=%22william+marshal%22+%22+fethard&source=bl&ots=Y4kEyj9SFT&sig=LcuEgYKfShU2PusW4mieDOP1fPE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi0lrib1aDJAhWFOT4KHbfHCDc4ChDoAQgoMAM#v=onepage&q=%22william%20marshal%22%20%22%20fethard&f=false ------dna21p.442,449
Leinster included Wexford, Westmeath and Wicklow, etc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leinster --- areas of leinster -------dna21p.450

WILLIAM MARSHAL MARRIED STRONGBOW’s DAUGHTER ISABEL DE CLARE:
Strongbow’s daughter Isabel married William Marshal (1146-1219), a famous knight who helped conquer Ireland. Isabel was one of the wealthiest heiresses in Ireland.
http://www.castlewales.com/marshall.html --------dna20p.89

William Marshal was awarded land in Wexford by King John in 1200.
http://www.ancient-egypt.co.uk/Cistercians/Tintern%20de%20Voto/index.htm -----dna20p.89, 88, dna21p.459

In 1200 Willam Marshal set up the Cistercian Tinturn Abbey very close (6.6km north) of the town of Fethard.
http://www.ancient-egypt.co.uk/Cistercians/Tintern%20de%20Voto/index.htm ------dna20p.88, 89

In the same year 1200, the Cistercian Christ church awarded Richard of London the town of Fethard.
https://books.google.com/books?id=08APVsLCJ4QC&pg=PA360&lpg=PA360&dq=%22richard+of+london%22&source=bl&ots=3xENTzSzUs&sig=ADFe3QrNaNZ52s2a72H6J14fuE0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgUahUKEwjMwYnSquLGAhXGaT4KHZe4Dfw#v=onepage&q=%22richard%20of%20london%22&f=false -----dna21p.422

William Marshal’s cousin Margaret Marshal (1154-1242) married Ralph de Somery (1151-1210). Ralph’s sister was Alice Somery, who married Richard le Bel (1160-1226), son of Richard of London.
dna22p.120 , http://www.geobeale.com/GB43.htm
THUS WILLIAM MARSHAL HAD A COUSIN WHOSE HUSBAND HAD A SISTER WHO MARRIED RICHARD LE BEL

William Marshal’s daughter Isabel Marshal (1200-1240) married Gilbert de Clare (1180-1230). 349 Gilbert, his sons Richard & William, and his grandson Gilbert all inherited Mapledurham, Hants where Richard le Bel lived for many years.

RICHARD TUITE—INVADED IRELAND WITH STRONGBOW.
The following names appear on a list of those in Ireland within 3 years of the invasion in 1171. They include Strongbow and Richard Tuite.
https://books.google.com/books?id=STYbAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA689&lpg=PA689&dq=richard+fleming---richard+marisco&source=bl&ots=JL-Pn9PumL&sig=iUVtTG3CdvlgBsR3YWqLTKwLJ7Q&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjhsbjmrefKAhXG7R4KHTNFAlIQ6AEIRDAJ#v=onepage&q=richard%20fleming---richard%20marisco&f=false -----dna22p.159

This is significant as we believe Richard of London was also Richard le Bel, we now observe that my ancestor George Beale (descendant of Richard le Bel) worked on the plantation of Richard Tuite on St Croix ca 1765.
dna22p.159

This Richard Tuite on St Croix was a descendant of Richard Tuite who invaded Ireland and then lived in Westmeath (area controlled by Strongbow).
dna22p.159, http://www.geobeale.com/GB38.htm

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4)- HUGO LE BEL HAD A SON RICHARD OF LONDON, RICHARD OWNED LAND IN FRENSHAM, SURREY in 1190

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5)- LE BEL AND MONTMORENCY HAD ROYAL ASSOCIATIONS/RELATIONSHIPS:

In 1126, Mathieu I (son of Bouchard IV de Montmorency and Agnes de Beaumont) married Alix/Aline, natural daughter of King Henry I, King of England..
In 1141, Matthieu I later married Adelaide de Maurienne, widow of Louis VI, King of France.. (dna25p.95)
In 1148, Herve (son of Bouchard IV Montmorency and Adeliza de Clermont) married Isabel de Beaumont, mistress of Henry I.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villiers-le-Bel (dna25p.215)
my translation---

The lords of the place, the Bel family in the service of the King of France, are mentioned in various texts from 1092. The oldest known is Matthew le Bel who was knight and vassal of the abbey of Saint-Denis. (Philip I was King of France in 1092)

Histoire généalogique de la maison de Montmorency et de Laval, justifiée par ...
By André Du Chesne, Cramoisy

https://books.google.com/books?id=tkSiZOnsGbQC&pg=PA102&lpg=PA102&dq=raoel+le+bel+de+montmorency+%22&source=bl&ots=fGysX16PXX&sig=DAebCw0VvhJDubqBeTyXQ07Qhpc&hl=en&sa=
X&ved=0ahUKEwig8cPk4Z7cAhVCiOAKHcnlAnsQ6AEIXDAJ#v=onepage&q=raoel%20le%20bel%20de%20montmorency%20%22&f=false

Histoire généalogique de la maison de Montmorency et de Laval, justifiée par ...
By André Du Chesne, Cramoisy
(dna25p.187, 191,192)

my translation of page 102 (dated 1146, 1148---Louis VII was King of France, known as the younger or thr young)

but the King, who had promised to send him there, was obliged to pay him with his mother, Raoul Comte de Vermandois Seneschal of France, and Suger Abbe of St. Dionysius, to govern and settle the affairs of the Kingdom during his absence. what can be induced from two Acts of the year one thousand one hundred and forty-eight, Concerning the souls of St. Brice, whom Matthew le Bel Lord of Villiers remitted into the hands of Thibaud Eefque de Paris, to give the prior to the Church of St. Louis. Martin des Champs: with the consent of Amaury Bel his son Aisne and Isabeau his wife, Adam his other son, Raoul & Jean the Bel his brothers. for the young King Louys being at that time in the ter-saint, MATHIEU Lord of Montmorency not only will possess the third part of this gift, which was held by him in his soul,

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6)- BEAUMONT/VERMANDOIS CONNECTION LINKS TO MAPLEDURHAM PROPERTY WHERE RICHARD LE BEL LIVED--

Robert de Beaumont and Elizabeth de Vermandois granddaughter Hawise de Beaumont 1120-1197 married William Fitz Robert 1121-1183. They owned Mapledurham and Priors Dean. This passed along to their daughter Isabel who married Prince John (who became king of England). A Richard le Bel worked for King John and lived in Priors Dean and Mapledurham.----GB54.htm, GB/44, GB/39, p.225

Descendants of Robert de Beaumont and Elizabeth de Vermandois (and decendants of Strongbow and William Marshal) owned Mapledurham 1222-1295. A later Richard Le Bel gave his property Ditcham (part of Mapledurham) to the church at his death in 1272. A write up of this transaction mistakenly listed Richard le Bel as Philip le Bel (the French King).------GB39, 159, 266

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7)- EARLY LE BEL WORKS FOR PRINCE PHILIP I OF FRANCE--

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villiers-le-Bel

In French, my translation:

The lords of the place, the Bel family in the service of the King of France, are mentioned in various texts from 1092. The oldest known is Matthew le Bel who was knight and vassal of the abbey of Saint-Denis. ----dna25 p.215

IN 1092, MATTHEW BE BEL WAS WORKING FOR PHILIP I (WHO WAS KING OF FRANCE 1060-1108)

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8)- BEAUMONT/VERMANDOIS CONNECTION LINKS TO PHILIP I, KING OF FRANCE--

Hugh Count of Vermandois (1057-1101) was younger brother of PHILIP I, King of France (1052-1108). Hugh's daughter Elizabeth de Vermandois (1085-1131) married Robert de Beaumont (1050-1118)

The grandfather of Herve de Montmorency’s wife (Isabel de Beaumont) was Hugh de Vermandois, brother of King Philip I.

Herve was Richard of London’s uncle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh,_Count_of_Vermandois
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_of_Vermandois,_Countess_of_Leicester
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_I_of_France

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