10/13/18---MANY ANCESTORS WORKED FOR ENGLISH KINGS
descended from Geoffrey le Bel.
Quick recap, details follow:
For Henry II------1170- Herve, Hugh le Bel’s
brother, joins Strongbow in invasion of Ireland.
For King John---1205e- Richard of London, son of
Hugh le Bel, carries King’s clothes.
For Henry III----1220---Richard of London
is King’s messenger.
1260e- James le Bel implies that Sir Edward of
Westminster
(future King Edward I) is a relative of his.
For Edward I--- 1273 Richard le Bel donates
his land in Mapledurham (Terra Regis)
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William the Conqueror
1028-1087
mar Matilda
He gave her Mapledurham, Hants
(later known as “Terra Regis”)
Queen Matilda held Manor of
Mapledurham 338
See www.geobeale.com/GB54.htm --background 1
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Henry I (Wm’s son)
1068-1135
King 1100-1135
mar Matilda of Scotland
mistress 1
mistress 2
mistress 3- Isabel de Beaumont
(mistress Isabel of Henry I married
Herve de Montmorency)
Matilda (Hen 1/Matilda daughter )
1102-1167
mar 1127
Geoffrey le Bel
1113-1151
Robert (Hen 1/mistress son}
1100-1147
1st Earl of
Gloucester
mar
Mabel FitzHamon (owned Mapledurham)
See www.geobeale.com/GB54.htm
Aline Fitz Roy (Hen 1/illegitinate daughter)
died 1141
mar 1126
Matthew 1 Montmorency----- (Bouchard IV
Montmorency/Agnes son)
1100-1160
Bouchard IV Montmorency
1077-1132
mar Agnes de Beaumont
mar Adelaid de Clermont
1075-1125
Herve---- (Bouchard IV Montmorency/
Adelaid son)
1115e-
mar
Isabel de Beaumont—(mistress of Henry Ist)
Isabel’s 1st husband was Gilbert de Clare.
Their son Richard de Clare 1130-1176 was
the knight “Strongbow” who invaded Ireland.
See www.geobeale.com/GB56.htm
Hugo le Bel-----(Bouchard IV Montmorency/
Adelaid son)
1116e-
Owned land Frensham, Surrey 1190 with
son Richard of London
See www.geobeale.com/GB56.htm
See www.geobeale.com/GB62.htm for genealogical
chart
showing relationship of this family.
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Henry II (a le Bel--Geoffrey/Matilda’s son)
1133-1189
King 1150-1189
mar 1151 Eleanor on Aquitaine
1124-1204
Richard of London---(a le Bel—Hugh’s son)
1135e -
Owned land Frensham, Surrey 1190
and land Fetland, Ireland 1200.
See www.geobeale.com/GB56.htm
Richard de Clare (1130-1176) –Strongbow-
invaded Ireland in 1170 along with his uncle Herve,
son of Bouchard IV. Herve is uncle of Richard of
London. Richard of London was awarded town of Fetland, Ireland in 1200.
See www.geobeale.com/GB56.htm ---and GB57htm.
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John (a le Bel—Henry II/Eleanor’s son)
1166-1216
King 1199-1216
Ancestors of Richard de London
serve King John—
See www.geobeale.com/GB44.htm
Ricardo de Londonia carries Kings Clothes
from Northampton to London per writ of
Godefridi filii Petri---see Footnote 1
Richard le Bel (Richard of London’s son)
1160e-
Land swap with Bishop Godfrey de Lucy
ca 1200.
See www.geobeale.com/GB49.htm
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Henry III (a le Bel---John’s son)
1207-1272
King 1216-1272
1266 court case mentions Henry son
of King John, followed by Richard le Bel-
See www.geobeale.com/GB44.htm
1226- Richard of London, clerk, has letters
of protection—see Footnote 2
1228 Ireland---Richard of London, clerk,
and his associate, the King’s messengers--
see Footnote 3
Contract (Temp Henry III) suggests Sir Edward of Westminster
may be related to Knight James le Bel---Sir Edward of Westminster
was later King Edward I
See www.geobeale.com/GB45.htm
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Edward I (a le Bel---Henry III son)
1239-1307
King 1272-1307
1273-Richard le Bel donates Durford to Dithford,
Mapledurham. Possible link To Phillip le Bel---see Footnote 4
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CONCLUSION-----THE LE BELS WORKED CLOSELY WITH KINGS DESCENDED FROM GEOFFREY
LE BEL
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FOOTNOTES:
Footnote 1--
http://archive.org/stream/rotuluscancella00commgoog/rotuluscancella00commgoog_djvu.txt
Et Ricardo de Londonia .11. s. et .vi. d. pro pannis Riegis cariandis a Norhantonia
usque ad Londoniam per breve Godefridi filii Petri.
my translation-----
and Ricardo from London for the King's clothes,
carrying Northampton to London through a writ of Godefridi
filii Petri.
(The above was during the time of King John. Petri
was managing King John’s affairs. I note Petri appears again ref Richard
of London, see next)
INVOLVED IN FERNHAM LAND:
1)- Richard of London, son of Hugh le Bel--owned
land Frensham, Surrey ca 1190 (Victoria History of Surrey p.609)
The Great Roll of the Pipe—King Henry the Second
2)- Ricardus de Lond son of Hugonis (Hugh) le Bel--
land in Fermesham with appurtances ca 1210. Pleas Galfridi
F. Petri (dna20resp.125 and pd tab aug14)
The Pipe Roll of the Bishopric of Winchester 1210-1211, pp. 38-39
(Petri appears to be an attorney, or judge during
the time of King John. Petri is involved in both of Richard of London events---King’s
clothes and Frensham land. )
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Footnote 2--
1226---de protectione-------- ricardus de london, clericus, habet litteras de
protectione, duraturus a festo sancti michaelis anno regni regis x usque in
unum annum sequentem. et mandatum est omnibis baillivis et fidelibus domini
regis quod manuteneant etc
my translation ---
1226 --- protection----- Richard London, clerk
has letters of protection, lasting from Michaelmas year of King x together until
next year. and a command to all his bailiffs and faithful to the king, to maintain
etc
patent rolls of the reign of hen III public record office---the deputy keeper
of records 1225-1232
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Footnote 3--
Feb 13, 1228 Ireland.
“The K. to Geoffrey de Mariscis. As the latter had expressed a wish that
the office of justiciary of Ireland should be committed to some other person.----John
Marshal, Walter de Lascy, and Theobald le Butiller, in the presence of Richard
de London, clerk, and his associate, the K.’s messengers, have undertaken
that on receipt of K.’s mandate Geoffrey shall deliver them.
Mandate to all the K.’s tenants in Ireland, not to pay their rent for Easter,
12 Henry III, to Geoffrey de Mariscis, formerly Justiciary of Ireland, but to
Richard or his messenger bearing these letters.”
CALENDAR OF DOCUMENTS RELATING TO IRELAND
HER MAJESTIES PUBLIC RECORD OFFICE, LONDON 1171-1251
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Footnote 4--
"The reign of Henry II. would seem to be the time
of general settlement in this neighbourhood. The
terraces of Nursted, of Petersfield, were now for the
first time tilled by the monks. Philip(sic) le Bel
endowed
Durford with Ditcham.f The lowlands of Liss were
also pastured by another convent, but Selborne Priory
was only founded in the reign of King John.
And now the sturdy little borough of Petersfield
drew its first breath. The charter of Hawisa, Countess
" Henricus Hosatus secundus," as he is termed in the charter
of Bp. Seyffridd, almost in royal style.
f Ricardus le Bel of Peteresfeld. Grant to Church
of Durford
of all his land, " De Dicham in Manerio de Mapuldreham,"
Charter of Durford, f. 89."---(p. 8)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_IV_of_France
“Philip IV (April–June 1268 – 29 November 1314), called Philip
the Fair (French: Philippe le Bel), was King of
France from 1285 until his death (the eleventh from the House of Capet).
His goal was to place his relatives on foreign thrones.
The most notable conflicts of Philip's reign include a dispute with Edward
I of England, his vassal as Duke of Aquitaine.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_I_of_England
“Edward I (17/18 June 1239 – 7 July 1307),
also known as Edward Longshanks and the Hammer of the Scots (Latin: Malleus
Scotorum), was King of England from 1272 to 1307.
Simultaneously, Edward I found himself at war with
France (a Scottish ally) after the French king Philip IV had confiscated the
duchy of Aquitaine, which until then had been held in personal union with the
Kingdom of England.
Edward I (right) giving homage to Philip IV (left). As
Duke of Aquitaine, Edward was a vassal of the French king.”
RECAP ABOVE---the copy mentioning Philip le Bel above must have been written
after Philip le Bel became King of France in 1285.
Yes, Richard le Bel endowed Durford wit Ditcham in 1273, a year after Edward
I (a le Bel) became King of England.
We note Edward was a vassal of the French King Philip le Bel.
As this property is in “Terra Regis”, possible Richard le Bel was
working in coordination with Edward I (a le Bel) and Philip le Bel.
This could possibly explain the typo of Philip le Bel in place of Richard le
Bel
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