11/8/18---- Early le BEL WORKED FOR FRENCH KINGS
le Bels served French Kings:
1)-1092-- LE BEL WORKS FOR KING PHILIP I OF FRANCE,
WHO WAS KING FROM 1060-1108 --
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villiers-le-Bel
In French, my translation:
The lords of the place, the Bel family in the service of the King of France, are mentioned in various texts from 1092. The oldest known is Matthew le Bel who was knight and vassal of the abbey of Saint-Denis. ----dna25 p.215
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2)- 1125- MATTHEW LE BEL WORKED FOR KING LOUIS VI OF FRANCE- KING FROM 1108-1137
Abbot Suger of St-Denis: Church and State in Early Twelfth-Century France
By Lindy Grant, David Bates
Per instructions from Louis VI, Abbot Suger of St-Denis, where the caput Kings
are buried, organized the knights for protection purposes:
“In 1125, Suger persuaded Matthew le Bel, Lord
of Villiers, just to the NE of St Denis, to list what he himself held as liege
knight from the abbey----
Matthew’s fiefs stretch in a great arc from Oise to the Marne, and north
almost to Senlis. Some 70 landowners are listed.”
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3)- 1148- MATTHEW LE BEL WORKED FOR KING LOUIS VII
OF FRANCE—KING FROM 1137-1180
Louis VII “The Younger” takes over from his father LouisVI as King
1137-1180. He continued to employ Abbot Suger who was his famous counselor.
----see Footnote 1
Matthew Le Bel continues to work with Abbot Suger,
see below:
Histoire généalogique de la maison de Montmorency et de Laval,
justifiée par ...
By André Du Chesne, Cramoisy
My translation of French copy--- dna25 p.187, 192
1148- but the King, who had promised to send him there, was obliged to pay him
with his mother, Raoul Comte de Vermandois Seneschal of France, and Suger Abbe
of St. Dionysius, to govern and settle the affairs of the Kingdom during his
absence. what can be induced from two Acts of the year one thousand one hundred
and forty-eight, Concerning the souls of St. Brice, whom Matthew
le Bel Lord of Villiers remitted into the hands of Thibaud Eefque
de Paris, to give the prior to the Church of St. Louis. martin des champs: with
the consent of Amaury Bel his son aisne and Isabeau his wife, adam his other
son, Raoul & Jean the bel his brothers. for the young
King Louys being at that time in the ter-saint, MATHIEU Lord of Montmorency
not only will possess the third part of this gift, which was held by him in
his soul,
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4) Eleanor of Aquitaine married Louis VII in 1137. They did not have
any sons. the marriage was annulled in 1152. She married the future King of
England Henry II (son of Geoffrey le Bel) in 1152,
they had 5 sons, 3 of which became Kings of England. ----see Footnote 2
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5)- EARLY GENEALOGICAL DATA ON FRENCH KINGS AND OTHERS DESCENDED FROM CHARLEMAGNE--
The first group goes from Charlemagne to Eleanor of Aquitaine----
https://www.100megsfree2.com/jjscherr/jacques/Charlemagnedescent.htm
The Royal Descent
of the Mayotte (Maillot, Mailhot) Family
Charlemagne
To
Eleanor of Aquitaine &
Louis VII Capet, King of France
and Forward to the Present
Generation No. 13
13. Eleanor-Alienor13 d'Aquitaine (William12
X, The Toulousan of Aquitaine, William11 IX, The Troubador of Aquitaine, William10VI,
Guido of Aquitaine, William9111, The Great of Aquitaine, William811, Ironarm
of Poitou, William71, Towhead of Poitou, Ebalus6 Manger, The Bastard of Poitou,
Ranulf511, Count of Poitou, Ranulf41, Count of Poitou, Hildegard3, Louis21,
The Pious and the Debonair, Charlemagne1)
The second group starts with Louis VII and up------they include the Montmorency and le Bel family (le Bel changed their name to de Villiers in 1264. See Footnotes 3 & 4 which show Le Bel and de Villiers are the same family. )
Generation No. 7
19th from Charlemagne
Jean7 de Chatilion (Gaucher II6, Gaucher5, Marie4 d'Avesne, Marguerite3 de Champagne, Alix2 Capet, Princess of France, Louis1VII, "The Younger" Capet, King of France) died 1363.
He married Isabelle de Montmorency October 13, 1336. She died March 02, 1340/41.
Notes for Jean de Chatilion:
Jean was the Lord of Chatilion
Notes for Isabelle de Montmorency:
Isabelle was Dame of Germaines Child of Jean de Chatilion and Isabelle de Montmorency:
+ 19 i. Charles8 de Chatilion, died 1401
(ER NOTE----Isabelle Montmorency’s 5th great Grandfather was Bouchard Montmorency IV )
Generation No. 9
21st from Charlemagne
20. Jeannes de Chatilion (Charles8, Jean7, Gaucher II6, Gaucher5, Marie4 d'Avesne,
Marguerite3 de Champagne, Alix2 Capet, Princess of France, Louis1VII, "The
Younger" Capet, King of France) She married Pierre
II de Villiers May 21, 1383, son of Pierre de Villiers and Marguerite de Vendome.
He died 1400.Notes for Pierre II de Villiers:
Pierre II was Lord of L'isle-Adam and Chamberlain of the King.
Child of Jeanne de Chatilion and Pierre de Villiers:
+ 21 i. Jean10 de Villiers, died May 22,
1437.
(ER NOTE---Pierre de Villiers was a direct descendant of Adam le Bel &
Matthew le Bel , Lord of Villiers---see https://archive.org/stream/villiersdelislea00rouguoft/villiersdelislea00rouguoft_djvu.txt
In 1264 Guillaume de Villiers le Bel passes the Lordship of Villiers le Bel
to Pierre le Villiers---note Chatillion link Montmorency to Villiers le Bel)
Generation No. 10
22nd from Charlemagne
21. Jean10 de Villiers (Jeanne9 de Chatilion,
Charles8, Jean7, Gaucher II6, Gaucher5, Marie4 d'Avesne, Marguerite3 de Champagne,
Alix2 Capet, Princess of France, Louis1VII, "The Younger" Capet, King
of France) died May 22, 1437. He married Jeanne heritiere
de Vallengoujart.
Notes for Jean de Villiers:
Jean was Lord of Domont and of d'lsle Adam
Marechal of France. Killed May 2, 1437
THIS DATA ABOVE COMBINED WITH FOOTNOTES 3 & 4 SUGGEST THAT LE BELS ARE RELATED
TO CHARLEMAGNE AND FRENCH KINGS.
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RECAP----le Bels served French Kings Philip, Louis
VI, Louis VII and then English Kings Henry II, John, and Henry III.
Eleanor of Aquitaine married French King Louis VII, and then moved to England
and married English King Henry II, her son was King John.
Eleanor was active in political affaires in France during Louis VII reign, in
England thru Henry II reign and into the reign of her son King John.
I believe Eleanor may have known Matthew le Bel in France (who served her husband
Louis VII), Herve, Hugh le Bel and son Richard of London, and Richard le Bel
(who served her husband Henry II and her son John).
The le Bel family may have moved with Eleanor from France to England.
We note Eleanor married Henry II, son of Geoffrey le Bel---any connection between
these le Bel families ?
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FOOTNOTES:
Footnote 1-
https://en.wikipediaorg/wiki/Louis_VII_of_France
“Louis VII (1120 – 18 September 1180), called the Younger or the Young
(French: le Jeune), was King of the Franks from 1137 to 1180, the sixth from
the House of Capet. He was the son and successor of King Louis VI, ---
Louis and his famous counselor, Abbot Suger, pushed for a greater centralization
of the state--- “
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Footnote 2-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine
Eleanor of Aquitaine-----
“On 25 July 1137 Louis VII of France and Eleanor were married in the Cathedral
of Saint-André in Bordeaux by the archbishop of Bordeaux----However,
after the birth of her second daughter Alix, Louis agreed to an annulment, as
15 years of marriage had not produced a son-----The marriage was annulled on
21 March 1152 ----As soon as the annulment was granted, Eleanor became engaged
to the duke of Normandy, who became King Henry II of England in 1154. Henry
was her third cousin and 11 years younger. The couple married on Whitsun, 18
May 1152---Eleanor of Aquitaine was queen consort of France (1137–1152)
and England (1154–1189)----On 25 October 1154, Henry became king of England.
Eleanor was crowned queen of England by the archbishop of Canterbury on 19 December
1154.[14] She may not have been anointed on this occasion, however, because
she had already been anointed in 1137.[21] Over the next 13 years, she bore
Henry five sons and three daughters: William, Henry, Richard, Geoffrey, John,
Matilda, Eleanor, and Joan.”
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Footnote 3-- (Book on family)
https://archive.org/stream/villiersdelislea00rouguoft/villiersdelislea00rouguoft_djvu.txt
Full text of "Villiers de l'Isle-Adam, biographie et bibliographie"
Translation------dna25p.84, 312
(The first note reads)- 1067. Radulphe or Raoul le
Bel, Lord of Villiers-le-Bel and Domont and his wife Lisvia. We then
find: 1125-1148. Mathieu le Bel, Lord de'Villiers
Bel Villiers-Ie-Sec, sire of Domont, Raoul parent... From what follows,
we may assume, I think, that Mathieu had four son Jean, Raoul, Amaury and Adam,
and Raoul, brother of John, was one of the small-son of Radulphe. 1148. Jean
Le Bel. brother Raoul le Bel, Lord of Villiers-le-Bel
and Domont.
(Roman numerals refer to the continuators of the name) ---
I. - Jean, Lord of Villiers-le-Bel, Dômont,
Walls AND Bontigny (Woman Marie de l'Isle, 1277).
Death in 1319. Burial at Dômont, (epitaph) of which Adam follows, Jean
and Louise..
II. - Adam, Lord of Villiers-le-Bel, SmE of Dômont.
Alix de Gressy's wife. Their burial is in the church of Dômont,
under the steeple, of which Pierre follows and Adam.
III. - Pierre, l "of the name, Lord of Villiers-le-Bel,
MAssv, L'ISLE-ADAM, etc. (Women: 1 ° Jeanne
de Beauvais, 1358-1363; 2" Marg. Of
Vendome, Porte-oriflamme of France: sepulture and epitaph of Jeane
de Beauvais at Dômont, of which: the first bed Pierre, Jeanne, Isabeau
and Catherine, the second bed (Marguerite de Bouchard de Vendome), Pierre,
who follows,
IV. – Pierre II de Villiers, Lord of the Isle-Adam,
Valmondois, etc. (Woman J. de Châtillon. Relief act in 1400
for his lordship of Iale-Adam. He pleads with his brother the archdeacon. His
children, including Jean, Robert and Jeanne, were still minors at his death.
V. Jean de Villiers, Lord of Isle-Adam, etc. (wife
J. de Vallengoujart)
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Footnote 4---- (from popular genealogical site----agrees mostly with footnote
3)
https://gw.geneanet.org/jcbo?lang=en&n=de+villiers+de+l+isle+adam&oc=0&p=pierre
my translations of French text:--------- dna26p.491
Pierre de Villiers I had from his first wife, Jeanne
de Beauvais, six children:
From his second wife, Marguerite de Vendôme, Pierre I de Villiers had
a son:
Pierre II de Villiers, who succeeded him.
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Raoul de VILLIERS
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Jean de VILLIERS, Sr de Villiers ca 1260-ca 1324........ Marie de L'ISLE ADAM
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Adam de VILLIERS de L'ISLE ADAM ca 1290-1339......... Alix de CRESSY (CRECY)
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Pierre de VILLIERS de L'ISLE ADAM ca 1339-1386