12/29/18-- POSSIBLE ELEANOR OF AQUITAINE LINK--
My key suppositions ref earliest Le Bel family in England.
I checked Frensham Surrey data where Beale family had lived for years. Early
data in Victoria History of Surrey p.609 said first family member in Surrey
was Richard of London, son of Hugh le Bel. I found in these early Surrey records
that Hugh le Bel was father of Richard of London, and they held property in
Frensham. see footnote 5
I found a Hugh who I believe was the father of Richard of London mentioned
above. He was son of Adeliza of Clermont, whose grandson was the knight Strongbow.
see footnote 1
I found Richard of London acquired the town of Fetland in Ireland, this property
had previously been in the hands of Strongbow, his son-in-law knight William
Marshal and King John. see footnote 3
Adeliza of Clermont also had a son Hervey in Ireland, he was the brother of
Hugh and the uncle of Strongbow and of Richard of London. see footnote 1
King Henry II (Eleanors husband) promised Strongbows daughter to
knight William Marshal , a friend of Eleanor of Aquitaine. see footnote 4 and
footnote 15
William Marshal in 1189 married into a family that owned Mapledurham, where
Richard le Bel lived. see bottom of footnote 4
Eleanors son King John in 1204 established control of Priors Dean. see
footnote 16
Priors Dean was Terra Regis (Kings land). see footnote 12
In 1347 Richard le Beel outlines land he rented from the King (and others) in
Mapledurham and la Dene. He and wife rented 2 dwelling houses of 60 acres each
(Weston & Petersfield) for a total of 120 acres in Mapledurham and I dwelling
house and 60 acres in La Dene. see footnote 17
In the 13th, and up to the 18th century, there was in Priors Dean a family
of some importance, that of the le Bel, Bele or Beal....Richard
le BEEL held of the king in capite. ----which means by which either
person or land was held immediately of the king, or of his crown, either by
knight-service or socage. A holder of a capite is termed a tenant-in-chief.
see footnote 13
NOTE---la Dene was the name of Priors Dean in the xii cent., suggesting that
the Le Bels held land there at that date. see footnote 11. This is consistent
with Richard le Bel court case stating family lived in Priors Dean and served
King John. see www.geobeale.com/GB44.htm
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ELEANOR OF AQUITAINE---
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ELEANOR MARRIED KING OF FRANCE---
On 25 July 1137 Louis VII of France and Eleanor were married in the Cathedral
of Saint-André in Bordeaux by the archbishop of Bordeaux----However,
after the birth of her second daughter Alix, Louis agreed to an annulment, as
15 years of marriage had not produced a son-----The marriage was annulled on
21 March 1152 see www.geobeale.com/GB64.htm
Eleanor of Aquitaine was queen consort of France (11371152)
see www.geobeale.com/GB64.htm
1148- MATTHEW LE BEL WORKED FOR KING LOUIS VII OF FRANCE
1148- but the King, who had promised to send him there, ... to govern and settle
the affairs of the Kingdom during his absence. ...Concerning the souls of St.
Brice, whom Matthew le Bel Lord of Villiers remitted into the hands of
Thibaud Eefque de Paris, to give the prior to the Church of St. Louis. martin
des champs: with the consent of Amaury Bel his son aisne and Isabeau his wife,
adam his other son, Raoul & Jean the bel his brothers. for the young
King Louys being at that time in the ter-saint, MATHIEU Lord of Montmorency
not only will possess the third part of this gift, which was held by him in
his soul, see www.geobeale.com/GB64.htm dna26p.511
ELEANOR MAY HAVE KNOWN MATTHEW LE BEL WHO SERVED HER
HUSBAND IN FRANCE
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ELEANOR MARRIED KING OF ENGLAND IN 1152--- see www.geobeale.com/GB63.htm dna26p.451
Eleanor became engaged to the duke of Normandy, who became King Henry
II of England in 1154. .... The couple married on Whitsun, 18 May 1152---On
25 October 1154, Henry became king of England.... Eleanor of Aquitaine was
queen consort of England (11541189) see www.geobeale.com/GB64.htm
ca 1171---all of the relevant Norman lords, as well as many Irish princes
and chiefs, swore fealty to the King of England, recognizing him as their overlord.
Eleanor had become Lady of Ireland--- see footnote 2-
HERVEY (UNCLE OF RICHARD OF LONDON) SERVED KING OF ENGLAND
IN IRELAND--
" Hervey and Strongbow invaded Ireland together ca 1171. Hervey
was sent by his nephew, Earl Richard (Strongbow), to Ireland with Robert FitzStephen
in 1169 to report on affairs there to the earl.
see https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Mount-Maurice,_Hervey_de_(DNB00)
see www.geobeale.com/GB62.htm dna20p.191
Strongbow proceeded to Waterford, when he found his uncle, Hervey
de Monte Maurice, had just arrived from England, with letters from the king...
(IN 1171--THE KING WAS HENRY II---ELEANORS HUSBAND)
https://archive.org/stream/3754681/3754681_djvu.txt dna20p.204
ELEANOR PROBABLY KNEW HERVEY WHO SERVED HER HUSBAND IN
IRELAND, AS SHE WAS LADY OF IRELAND
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EL IMPRISONED BY HER HUSBAND 1174-1189---- no news from her or le Bels during
this time. see footnote 8
1176---King Henry II favorite son (with Eleanor) was John. Henry provided inheritance
for John part of which were the manors of Mapledurham and Petersfield.
see footnote 9---hen ii gives john Mapledurham
1189----in his last days, King Henry II promised Strongbows daughter to William
Marshal as his bride to be, thus giving William huge amounts of real estate.
see footnote 15, footnote 6
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EL SET FREE AFTER DEATH OF HER HUSBAND IN 1189
William marshal set Eleanor free after 15 years in prison. see footnote 10
In 1189 her son King Richard took action--- Eleanor was immediately appointed
Regent of England and she moved quickly to London to undertake the business
of government see footnote 10
In 1190 King Richard included William Marshal on his Council of Regency. see
footnote 15
Eleanors son John took over as king in 1199, following the death of her
son Richard.
king John, Willam Marshal, and Richard of London became involved in Ireland
ca 1200 :
William Marshal was awarded land in Wexford, Ireland by King John in 1200. see
footnote 3
In 1200 Willam Marshal set up the Cistercian Tinturn Abbey very close (6.6km
north) of the town of Fethard. see footnote 3
(Background prior 1200-- Herve married Isabel de Beaumont
(mistress of Henry I), her 1st husband was Gilbert de Clare, father of Strongbow.
Hervey and Strongbow invaded Ireland together ca 1171. Hervey
was sent by his nephew, Earl Richard, to Ireland ...
Strongbow was made Lord of Leinster, which covered large chunks of land including
Wexford, Westmeath, and Wicklow
Hervey granted land in Wexford to the Cistercians, which included Fethard
Fethard, Wexford---Wexford was granted to Strongbow in 1174 when he became lord
of Leinster. Some of this land (Fethard) may have been given to his uncle Hervey.
Hervey gave this land to Christ Church, Canterbury prior his death.
Richard of London was given Fethard, Wexford, Ireland which was probably
included in the grant of Hervey Mount Maurice...Hervey gave the land to
the monks of Christ Church, Canterbury) footnote 3
In the same year 1200, the Cistercian Christ church awarded Richard of London
the town of Fethard. see footnote 3
It is most likely that Eleanor of Aquitaine who was
Queen of Ireland in 1171 and Regent of England in 1189 would be aware of some
of the Ireland transactions that I have noted.
Eleanor of Aquitaine married Henry II, who was a le Bel. Were the le Bels
I have been researching related to Henry II's le Bel family ?
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Footnote 1---------BACKGROUND ON LE BELsee also---- www.geobeale.com/GB62.htm
HERE ARE THE PARENTS OF HUGH, FATHER OF RICHARD OF LONDON, LATER NAMED RICHARD
LE BEL:
1)- BOUCHARD IV DE MONTMORENCY (1077-1132) married after 1114 ADELIZA DE CLERMONT
(1075e-1125e)
Bouchard IV de Montmorency (1077-1132)-- His third wife was Adeliza de Clermont
(1075e-1125e), he was her second husband.
http://www.geni.com/people/Bouchard-IV-baron-de-Montmorency/6000000003219690
-----dna20p.183, dna21p.348
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc429810561
(dna25pp.98,96)
(records of this marriage and children are at the Thorney Monastery in Cambridgeshire,
Huntingdon, England) GB62
THEY HAD THREE SONS---HERVE (b 1115e), HUGO (b 1116e) and GUY (b 1117e)
Adeliza had three sons by her second husband Bouchard IV, they were Herve, Hugo
and Guy. (I believe Hugo was the father of Richard of London (b 1135e), later
named Richard le Bel)
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc429810561
see footnote [607]----dna20p.177, pd26, ---dna21p.348
2)- ADELIZA BY HER FIRST HUSBAND HAD A GRANDSON RICHARD DE CLARE (1130-1176,
a Knight named STRONGBOW)
Adelizas grandson by her first marriage was Richard de Clare (1130-1176),
a famous knight that helped capture Ireland in 1171. His nickname was Strongbow.
http://www.geni.com/people/Richard-de-Clare-2nd-Earl-of-Pembroke/6000000001446542148
---dna21p.349, 469
3)- ADELIZAS FAMILY AND FRIENDS WERE IN IRELAND---STRONGBOW (grandson
of Adeliza de Clermont) ----HERVEY (son of Adeliza )----RICHARD OF LONDON (my
ancestor, son of Hugh, nephew of Hervey, grandson of Adeliza, cousin of Strongbow)-----WILLIAM
MARSHALL (famous Knight who married Strongbow's daughter)---RICHARD TUITE (ancestor
of Richard Tuite who owned St Croix platation my ancestor George Beale managed
in 1765). GB62
LE BEL SERVED KING OF ENGLAND--
" Hervey and Strongbow invaded Ireland together ca 1171. Hervey
was sent by his nephew, Earl Richard (Strongbow), to Ireland with Robert FitzStephen
in 1169 to report on affairs there to the earl.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Mount-Maurice,_Hervey_de_(DNB00) ------dna20p.191
GB62
Strongbow proceeded to Waterford, when he found his uncle, Hervey de Monte
Maurice, had just arrived from England, with letters from the king...
(ELEANORS HUSBAND)
https://archive.org/stream/3754681/3754681_djvu.txt -----dna20p.204
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footnote 2---El lady of Ire
http://garethrussellcidevant.blogspot.com/2011/10/woman-out-of-legend-life-of-eleanor-of.html
Strongbow could not become a king - it would weaken Henry's own primacy in the
British Isles and that could not be allowed to happen. Henrys six-month
stay in Ireland produced the desired result: all of the relevant Norman lords,
as well as many Irish princes and chiefs, swore fealty to the King of England,
recognising him as their overlord. Eleanor had become Lady of Ireland and nine
centuries of controversy had begun. 520B
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footnote 3-- fetland---
GB62
RICHARD OF LONDON IN IRELANDHE WAS GIVEN TOWN OF FETHARD, CO. WEXFORD
Background of Fethard, Wexford---Wexford was granted to Strongbow in 1174 when
he became lord of Leinster. Some of this land (Fethard) may have been given
to his uncle Hervey. Hervey gave this land to Christ Church, Canterbury prior
his death. The church gave Fethard to Herveys nephew Richard of London in 1200.
Richard of London was given Fethard, Wexford, Ireland which was probably
included in the grant of Hervey Mount Maurice...Hervey gave the land to the
monks of Christ Church, Canterbury XXXXXXX
https://books.google.com/books?id=Ej5aAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA377&lpg=PA377&dq=cistercian----convent+of+fethard+fethard,+co+wexford&source=bl&ots=Ve9PgpZBCV&sig=-vbUAushRtYr7sDVJx02EQYYfiM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CC8Q6AEwA2oVChMI3am4wfCYyQIVBmseCh24bgYo#v=onepage&q=cistercian----convent%20of%20fethard%20fethard%2C%20co%20wexford&f=false
.....dna21p.501, 433, 429
In 1200, the town of Fethard, Wexford was given to Richard of London by Christ
Church, Canterbury.
https://books.google.com/books?id=08APVsLCJ4QC&pg=PA360&lpg=PA360&dq=%22richard+of+london%22&source=bl&ots=3xENTzSzUs&sig=ADFe3QrNaNZ52s2a72H6J14fuE0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgUahUKEwjMwYnSquLGAhXGaT4KHZe4Dfw#v=onepage&q=%22richard%20of%20london%22&f=false
-----dna21p.422
Fethard is in an area contolled by Strongbow in 1174 as lord of Leinster.
https://books.google.com/books?id=2TxLAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA566&lpg=PA566&dq=%22william+marshal%22+%22+fethard&source=bl&ots=Y4kEyj9SFT&sig=LcuEgYKfShU2PusW4mieDOP1fPE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi0lrib1aDJAhWFOT4KHbfHCDc4ChDoAQgoMAM#v=onepage&q=%22william%20marshal%22%20%22%20fethard&f=false
------dna21p.442,449
Leinster included Wexford, Westmeath and Wicklow, etc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leinster --- areas of leinster -------dna21p.450
GB56
OK, what de we know about Adelizas son Herve/Hervey, last name was variously
Mount-Maurice/ Monte Marisco/ Montmorenci ?
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Mount-Maurice,_Hervey_de_(DNB00) -----dna20p.191
Hervey was the uncle of Richard de Clare (1130-1176), nickname Strongbow (Adelizas grandson)
Herve married Isabel de Beaumont (mistress of Henry I), her 2nd husband was
Gilbert de Clare, father of Strongbow. XXXXXXXX
http://www.geni.com/people/Isabel-de-Beaumont-Concubine-15-of-Henry-I-Countess-of-Pembroke/6000000005598851433
------dna21p.512
http://www.geni.com/people/Gilbert-FitzGilbert-de-Clare/6000000003146930329
------dna21p.469, 460
Hervey and Strongbow invaded Ireland together ca 1171. Hervey was sent
by his nephew, Earl Richard, to Ireland with Robert FitzStephen in 1169 to report
on affairs there to the earl. XXXXXXX
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Mount-Maurice,_Hervey_de_(DNB00) ------dna20p.191
Strongbow was made Lord of Leinster, which covered large chunks of land including
Wexford, Westmeath, and Wicklow XXXXXXXXXXX
http://www.geni.com/people/Gilbert-FitzGilbert-de-Clare/6000000003146930329
-----dna21p.460
http://www.castlewales.com/is_clare.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leinster --- areas of leinster----dna21p.450
Hervey granted land in Wexford to the Cistercians, which included Fethard XXXXXXXXXX
http://www.ancient-egypt.co.uk/Cistercians/Tintern%20de%20Voto/index.htm ---dna20p.88
https://books.google.com/books?id=Ej5aAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA377&lpg=PA377&dq=cistercian----convent+of+fethard+fethard,+co+wexford&source=bl&ots=Ve9PgpZBCV&sig=-vbUAushRtYr7sDVJx02EQYYfiM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CC8Q6AEwA2oVChMI3am4wfCYyQIVBmseCh24bgYo#v=onepage&q=cistercian----convent%20of%20fethard%20fethard%2C%20co%20wexford&f=false
----dna21p.433
Richard of London was given Fethard, Wexford, Ireland which was probably
included in the grant of Hervey Mount Maurice...Hervey gave the land to the
monks of Christ Church, Canterbury
https://books.google.com/books?id=Ej5aAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA377&lpg=PA377&dq=cistercian----convent+of+fethard+fethard,+co+wexford&source=bl&ots=Ve9PgpZBCV&sig=-vbUAushRtYr7sDVJx02EQYYfiM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CC8Q6AEwA2oVChMI3am4wfCYyQIVBmseCh24bgYo#v=onepage&q=cistercian----convent%20of%20fethard%20fethard%2C%20co%20wexford&f=false
.....dna21p.501, 433, 429
In 1200, the town of Fethard, Wexford was given to Richard of London by Christ
Church, Canterbury.
https://books.google.com/books?id=08APVsLCJ4QC&pg=PA360&lpg=PA360&dq=%22richard+of+london%22&source=bl&ots=3xENTzSzUs&sig=ADFe3QrNaNZ52s2a72H6J14fuE0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgUahUKEwjMwYnSquLGAhXGaT4KHZe4Dfw#v=onepage&q=%22richard%20of%20london%22&f=false
-----dna21p.422
Fethard is in an area contolled by Strongbow in 1174 as lord of Leinster.
https://books.google.com/books?id=2TxLAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA566&lpg=PA566&dq=%22william+marshal%22+%22+fethard&source=bl&ots=Y4kEyj9SFT&sig=LcuEgYKfShU2PusW4mieDOP1fPE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi0lrib1aDJAhWFOT4KHbfHCDc4ChDoAQgoMAM#v=onepage&q=%22william%20marshal%22%20%22%20fethard&f=false
------dna21p.442,449
Leinster included Wexford, Westmeath and Wicklow
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leinster --- areas of leinster -------dna21p.450
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footnote 4--- wm marshal---GB56
STRONGBOWs DAUGHTER ISABEL DE CLARE MARRIED WILLIAM MARSHAL:
Strongbows daughter Isabel married William Marshal (1146-1219), a knight
who helped conquer Ireland.
http://www.castlewales.com/marshall.html --------dna20p.89
William Marshal was awarded land in Wexford by King John in 1200. XXXXXXX
http://www.ancient-egypt.co.uk/Cistercians/Tintern%20de%20Voto/index.htm -----dna20p.89,
88, dna21p.459
In 1200 Willam Marshal set up the Cistercian Tinturn Abbey very close (6.6km
north) of the town of Fethard. XXXXXXXXXX
http://www.ancient-egypt.co.uk/Cistercians/Tintern%20de%20Voto/index.htm ------dna20p.88,
89
In the same year 1200, the Cistercian Christ church awarded Richard of London
the town of Fethard. XXXXXXXXX
https://books.google.com/books?id=08APVsLCJ4QC&pg=PA360&lpg=PA360&dq=%22richard+of+london%22&source=bl&ots=3xENTzSzUs&sig=ADFe3QrNaNZ52s2a72H6J14fuE0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgUahUKEwjMwYnSquLGAhXGaT4KHZe4Dfw#v=onepage&q=%22richard%20of%20london%22&f=false
-----dna21p.422
STRONGBOWs DAUGHTER ISABEL DE CLARE MARRIED WILLIAM MARSHAL:
Strongbows daughter Isabel married William Marshal (1146-1219), a knight
who helped conquer Ireland.
http://www.castlewales.com/marshall.html --------dna20p.89
William Marshal was awarded land in Wexford by King John in 1200.
http://www.ancient-egypt.co.uk/Cistercians/Tintern%20de%20Voto/index.htm -----dna20p.89,
88, dna21p.459
In 1200 Willam Marshal set up the Cistercian Tinturn Abbey very close (6.6km
north) of the town of Fethard.
http://www.ancient-egypt.co.uk/Cistercians/Tintern%20de%20Voto/index.htm ------dna20p.88,
89
In the same year 1200, the Cistercian Christ church awarded Richard of London
the town of Fethard.
https://books.google.com/books?id=08APVsLCJ4QC&pg=PA360&lpg=PA360&dq=%22richard+of+london%22&source=bl&ots=3xENTzSzUs&sig=ADFe3QrNaNZ52s2a72H6J14fuE0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgUahUKEwjMwYnSquLGAhXGaT4KHZe4Dfw#v=onepage&q=%22richard%20of%20london%22&f=false
-----dna21p.422
William Marshalls sister Margaret Marshal (1154-1242) married Ralph de
Somery (1151-1210). Ralphs sister was Alice Somery, who married Richard
le Bel (1150-1226), also known as Richard of London
dna22p.120 , http://www.geobeale.com/GB43.htm
THUS WILLIAM MARSHAL HAD A SISTER WHOSE HUSBAND HAD A SISTER WHO MARRIED RICHARD
LE BEL
ADDITIONAL MARSHAL LINKS TO RICHARD LE BEL-
William Marshalls daughter Isabel Marshall (1200-1240) married Gilbert
de Clare (1180-1230). 349 Gilbert, his sons Richard & William, and his grandson
Gilbert all inherited Mapledurham, Hants where Richard le Bel lived for many
years.
Richard le Bel lived in Mapledurham and Priors Dean, Hants for many years, having
once served King John.
www.geobeale.com/GB44
-------------------similar data from GB62-----------------------
WILLIAM MARSHAL MARRIED STRONGBOWs DAUGHTER ISABEL DE CLARE IN 1189:
Strongbows daughter Isabel married William Marshal (1146-1219), a famous
knight who helped conquer Ireland. Isabel was one of the wealthiest heiresses
in Ireland.
http://www.castlewales.com/marshall.html --------dna20p.89
William Marshal was awarded land in Wexford by King John in 1200.
http://www.ancient-egypt.co.uk/Cistercians/Tintern%20de%20Voto/index.htm -----dna20p.89,
88, dna21p.459
In 1200 Willam Marshal set up the Cistercian Tinturn Abbey very close (6.6km
north) of the town of Fethard.
http://www.ancient-egypt.co.uk/Cistercians/Tintern%20de%20Voto/index.htm ------dna20p.88,
89
In the same year 1200, the Cistercian Christ church awarded Richard of London
the town of Fethard.
https://books.google.com/books?id=08APVsLCJ4QC&pg=PA360&lpg=PA360&dq=%22richard+of+london%22&source=bl&ots=3xENTzSzUs&sig=ADFe3QrNaNZ52s2a72H6J14fuE0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgUahUKEwjMwYnSquLGAhXGaT4KHZe4Dfw#v=onepage&q=%22richard%20of%20london%22&f=false
-----dna21p.422
William Marshals cousin Margaret Marshal (1154-1242) married Ralph de
Somery (1151-1210). Ralphs sister was Alice Somery, who married Richard
le Bel (1160-1226), son of Richard of London.
dna22p.120 , http://www.geobeale.com/GB43.htm
THUS WILLIAM MARSHAL HAD A COUSIN WHOSE HUSBAND HAD A SISTER WHO MARRIED RICHARD
LE BEL
William Marshals daughter Isabel Marshal (1200-1240) married Gilbert de Clare (1180-1230). 349 Gilbert, his sons Richard & William, and his grandson Gilbert all inherited Mapledurham, Hants where Richard le Bel lived for many years.
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footnote 5 -----Petri---559----GB63
http://archive.org/stream/rotuluscancella00commgoog/rotuluscancella00commgoog_djvu.txt
Et Ricardo de Londonia .11. s. et .vi. d. pro pannis Riegis cariandis a Norhantonia usque ad Londoniam per breve Godefridi filii Petri.
my translation-----
and Ricardo from London for the King's clothes, carrying Northampton to London
through a writ of Godefridi filii Petri.
(The above was during the time of King John. Petri was managing King Johns
affairs. I note Petri appears again ref Richard of London, see next)
INVOLVED IN FERNHAM LAND:
1)- Richard of London, son of Hugh le Bel--owned land Frensham, Surrey ca 1190
(Victoria History of Surrey p.609)
The Great Roll of the PipeKing Henry the Second
2)- Ricardus de Lond son of Hugonis (Hugh) le Bel-- land in Fermesham with appurtances
ca 1210. Pleas Galfridi F. Petri (dna20resp.125 and pd tab aug14)
The Pipe Roll of the Bishopric of Winchester 1210-1211, pp. 38-39
(Petri appears to be an attorney, or judge during the time of King John. Petri
is involved in both of Richard of London events---Kings clothes and Frensham
land. )
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footnote 6---hen ii to wm marshal---540, 526
in 1189 During Henry II last days 526 he made good on his promise to wm marshal
of the hand of isabel de clare, daughter of strongbow. marshal acquired large
estates in england, wales, normamdy and ireland. wm stayed in ireland until
1213. he was loyal to king john. 526
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footnote 7hen ii ----john gets IRE---520B
http://garethrussellcidevant.blogspot.com/2011/10/woman-out-of-legend-life-of-eleanor-of.html
Plans were being made for the other childrens marriages and to start preparing
various parts of the empire for the boys as it stood, Young Henry was
expected to inherit England, Normandy and Anjou; Richard, as his mothers
favourite, would get the Aquitaine; Geoffrey would be married to Constance,
the sole heiress to the Duke of Brittany, and John would get Ireland. Henry
II, looking confidently into the future, saw nothing but success for his lineage
and, apparently, a game of happy families. The great king was totally and utterly
oblivious to the resentment brewing all around him, particularly in his wife
and his eldest son.
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footnote 8El in jail
http://garethrussellcidevant.blogspot.com/2011/10/woman-out-of-legend-life-of-eleanor-of.html
Whatever the reason, Eleanors decision to rebel cost her dearly. She spent
the next fifteen years of her life as her husbands prisoner, occasionally
trotted out for grand public displays to celebrate the farcical unity of the
royal family. In those fifteen years, the world passed Eleanor of Aquitaine
by. For most of her adult life she had stood near the centre of some of the
great events of the medieval period, but now she was no longer relevant. For
a woman who had always mattered, this must have been galling.
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footnote 9---hen ii gives john Mapledurham ---535
http://www.petersfieldhistoricalsociety.org/news/31-king-john-petersfield
With the 800th anniversary of the Magna Carta taking place this year, it is interesting to remind ourselves of King Johns association with Petersfield. Born in 1167, he was the fourth son of Henry II and as such was not expected to inherit significant lands; indeed he was given the nickname of John Lackland. Though he grew up to be a weak and unscrupulous character whom few trusted, he was Henry IIs favourite son and Henry made every attempt to provide an inheritance for him, part of which were the manors of Mapledurham and Petersfield.
In 1120 Petersfield was granted a charter by William, Earl of Gloucester and on his death his widow, Hawissa, confirmed it. The Gloucesters were very wealthy and extremely close to the royal family as Richards father, Robert, was a son of Henry I.
However in 1176, after the death of Hawissa, Henry II disinherited the two elder daughters of William and Hawissa in favour of their younger daughter, Isabella, to whom he betrothed his son John. It was for this reason, in the face of convention that Prince John, Count of Moreton as he was then known, came to confirm the charter of the manor of Petersfield in 1198, which had been bestowed upon him by marriage.
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footnote 10---el freed by marshal---540
after death of Henry II in 1189---el had been in jail 15 years
http://garethrussellcidevant.blogspot.com/2011/12/lady-of-two-kingdoms-life-of-eleanor-of.html
The Middle Ages is one of the very few eras in history in which scenes from a fairy tale can come close to reality. One such scene took place at the height of summer in 1189 when a man called William Marshal, later described by the Archbishop of Canterbury as 'the greatest knight who ever lived', strode into the presence of the imprisoned Queen Mother of England and informed her that she was free at last. There was certainly a moment of sublime poetic fulfilment when William Marshal handed Eleanor of Aquitaine her freedom, because over twenty years earlier she had done the same thing for him. Long before he had won his reputation as the greatest jouster of the century and before he had distinguished himself by going on Crusade for a dead prince
But the Eleanor who emerged back into the world in 1189 was a very different one to the woman who had been shut away from it in 1174. She was now an old woman, particularly by the standards of her day; she was already well into her sixties. Her first husband, Louis VII, had been dead for nearly nine years, having been succeeded by his son from his third marriage...
If Eleanor felt anything at losing the husband who had been her lover, partner, spouse and jailer, she gave very little sign of it. Regrets or looking back are not things that Eleanor of Aquitaine seems to have overly bothered herself with. In many ways she had the final victory over Henry, not just by outliving him but by having him buried in Fontevrault - her burial ground. A magnificent structure rising splendidly out of the beautiful scenery of the Loire Valley, Fontevrault had been founded in 1100 by Eleanor's grandmother, Philippa of Toulouse, Duchess of the Aquitaine, and formally dedicated to the Virgin Mary.
Richard had been in France when he heard the news that his father was dead and he was now King of England, Lord of Ireland, Duke of Normandy, Duke of Aquitaine, Duke of Gascony, Count of Anjou, Count of Maine and Count of Nantes. It would take him some time to make the journey back to England for his coronation and in his absence, he showed his trust and love for his mother by giving her the power that both of her husbands had denied her. Freed from captivity, Eleanor was immediately appointed Regent of England and she moved quickly to London to undertake the business of government. And for someone who technically had very little experience of ruling in her own right, Eleanor showed herself to be remarkably good at it in a remarkably short period of time. It leaves the historian wondering what her husbands might have been able to achieve with her at their side, if they had only trusted her enough. The monk and chronicler, Matthew Paris, later wrote that Eleanor's time as Regent after her son's accession made her 'exceedingly respected and beloved' by the people.
Once the drama and tragedy of the coronation was behind them, Eleanor, now her son's closest confidante and adviser, strongly promoted the idea that Richard, thirty-two years-old and still unmarried, should find a wife before going on Crusade. At six foot five in height, muscular, broad-shouldered and, like both of his parents, handsome and charismatic, Richard was not exactly an unattractive bridegroom. Of course, in the realm of European royal matchmaking, .... Richard showed himself prepared to do his duty for England when he and his mother met with a council in Normandy to discuss the royal marriage.
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footnote 11---- le bel owned land mapledurham and la dene--
10)- 1347 death of Richard le Beel---his wife Joan, 19 yr old son Richard.
Held land in Weston and Petersfield in the Manor of Mapledurham, and land in
La Dene in the prior of Suthewyk.
See Dropbox ???? (get fm 1/9/14 PD evanrandolph3.doc), includes lots of additional
data on wife Joan and Richard le Bel dna19p.43 bottom GB53 532, 535
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/hants/vol4/pp436-437
PRIORS DEAN 541
Ladene, Dene (xii cent.); Priors Dene, Priorsdeane (xvi cent.); Dean Prior,
Priors Dean (xviii cent.).
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footnote 12----- terra regis-- dna25p.353
https://books.google.com/books?id=HHQ1AQAAIAAJ&pg=PA55&lpg=PA55&dq=priors+dene--terra+regis&source=bl&ots=kMqK9MmBF5&sig=EO1rwlARnxTeBwljJcuiobFnisg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Xj5OVenSDMGeNsPFgPAO&ved=0CBQQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=priors%20dene--terra%20regis&f=false
p.54---Domesday returns show Maplederham (Buriton and Petersfield) belonged
to Queen Matilda...this plus Priors Dean, belonged to William the Conqueror
in 1086.
p.55---Priors Dean is placed among the king's lands, Terra Regis...
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footnote 13---- family of some importance----in capite
A HISTORY OF THE UNITED PARISHES OF COLMER AND PRIORS DEAN 532
In the 13th, and up to the 18th century, there was in Priors Dean a family of some importance, that of the le Bel, Bele or Beal. Richard le Bel is one of the jurors named in the last document, and he was a witness of others.....Inquisition taken at his death in 1346...Richard le BEEL held of the king in capite. 533
googled capite--- 535
Capite. In old English law, a capite (from Latin caput, head) was a tenure,
abolished by Act 12 Chas. II, xxiv. (Tenures Abolition Act 1660), by which either
person or land was held immediately of the king, or of his crown, either by
knight-service or socage. A holder of a capite is termed a tenant-in-chief.
google socage
soc·age
/'säkij/Submit
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noun historical
noun: socage; noun: soccage
a feudal tenure of land involving payment of rent or other nonmilitary service
to a superior
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footnote 14------richard le bel priors dean connected to Frensham family 535
LE BEL---
We discovered a 1266 Winchester Castle Court case in which Richard le Bel states
that he (and others) and their ancestors had lived in Priors Dean, Hants and
served King John. They objected to being taxed more. They won the case.
-- NEW DATA 12 APRIL 2014
(Priors Dean is 3.8 miles south of Selborne).
" The following is a list of the Vicars of Basingstoke, instituted to the Vicarage on the presentation of the Prior and Convent of Selborne, with the precise date of their institution if extant : SiMONj named as Vicar in 1244 in the ordination or composition drawn up by Bishop William de Raleigh. * Sir Peteb occurs in 1250 as its Vicar, and Richard le Bel, in 1277 a member of a well-known family of that name, located at Frensham, in Surrey."---dna 13- p. 25
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footnote 15------- wm marshal mar dau of stongbow 1189
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Marshal,_1st_Earl_of_Pembroke
Nonetheless after Henry's death, Marshal was welcomed at court by his former
adversary, now King Richard I, who was wise to include a man whose legendary
loyalty and military accomplishments were too useful to ignore, especially in
a king who was intending to go on Crusade.[2]
During the old king's last days he had promised the Marshal the hand and estates of Isabel de Clare (c.11721220), but had not completed the arrangements. King Richard however, confirmed the offer and so in August 1189, at the age of 43, the Marshal married the 17-year-old daughter of Richard de Clare (Strongbow). Her father had been Earl of Pembroke, and Marshal acquired large estates and claims in England, Wales, Normandy and Ireland. Some estates however were excluded from the deal. Marshal did not obtain Pembroke and the title of earl, which his father-in-law had enjoyed, until 1199, as it had been taken into the king's hand in 1154. However, the marriage transformed the landless knight from a minor family into one of the richest men in the kingdom, a sign of his power and prestige at court.
William Marshal was included in the council of regency which King Richard appointed
on his departure for the Third Crusade in 1190 (as was EL---Eleanor was
immediately appointed Regent of England by Richard at this time)
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Footnote 16-----King John and Priors Dean
https://books.google.com/books?id=HHQ1AQAAIAAJ&pg=PA65&lpg=PA65&dq=king+john+established+priors+dean,+england&source=bl&ots=kNrOhGoIK5&sig=fGARZJWqtUXDQg3u5sqTWC1zyNs&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjQ-eS_zMDfAhXLmVkKHdyfDxgQ6AEwEHoECAAQAQ#v=onepage&q=king%20john%20established%20priors%20dean%2C%20england&f=false
The history of the parishes and manor of Colmer and Priors Dean: in the ...
By Thomas Hervey
p 71----richard de la Dih holds 20 ac land, 4 of wood---boarme cumbe, piperland
p 69---1204 king john issues inquisition-----to sheriff of southamptoncanons
full seizure lands of dene
71-----rents of various tennants---richard old de la fosse---piperlandrichard
de la dih holds 20 acres of land and 4 of wood
72-----and barnecombe and hyndecombe
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Footnote 17---
from 1/9/14 PD evanrandolph3.doc---
here is part of above:
Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem and other analogous documents,
Volume VIII, Edward III
Page 478, Item 653 Richard Le Beel.
Writ 20 September, 20 Edward III (NB the number 20 before Edward signifies the
20th year of his reign)
Southampton. Inq. Thursday after St Luke, 20 Edward III
Westynton in the Manor of Mapledurham. A moiety of a messuage &c. 60a. arable,
4a. meadow and 37s 10½d. rent, held jointly with Joan his wife, who still
survives, and their heirs, of the king in chief by service of coming twice a
year to the view of frankplege at Mapelderham.
Petresfield in the manor of Mapelderham. A messuage, 60a. arable, 4a. meadow,
1a. alder grove and 2s 6d rent from two free tenants, held of the earl of Gloucester
by service of 2s and suit at the said earls court at Mapelderham every
three weeks; and there are paid yearly 17s 4d to the abbot of Dureford, and
4d to Roger de Petresfeld.
La Dene of the prior of Suthewyk. A messuage &c, 60a arable lying in the
common fields, and 5a wood, held of the said prior by service of 6d yearly and
suit at the priors court at La Dene every three weeks.
He died on 15 April, 20 Edward III. Richard his son, aged 19 years and more,
is his next heir.
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misc le Bel activity during this time that probably was unknown to Eleanor.
See footnote 5 for further details.
Ricardo de Londonia carrying clothes from Northants to London for King John
per instructions of Godefridi filii Petri.
http://archive.org/stream/rotuluscancella00commgoog/rotuluscancella00commgoog_djvu.txt
------ (dna20p.59B) GB56
and Ricardo from London for the King's clothes, carrying Northampton to London
through a writ of Godefridi filii Petri.
(The above was during the time of King John. Petri was managing King Johns
affairs. I note Petri appears again ref Richard of London, see next) ---- footnote
petri-----GB63
2)- Ricardus de Lond son of Hugonis (Hugh) le Bel-- land in Fermesham with appurtances
ca 1210. Pleas Galfridi F. Petri (dna20resp.125 and pd tab aug14)
The Pipe Roll of the Bishopric of Winchester 1210-1211, pp. 38-39
(Petri appears to be an attorney, or judge during the time of King John. Petri
is involved in both of Richard of London events---Kings clothes and Frensham
land. )
footnote petri-----GB63
er---add matthew I marriages to els friend