12/29/18-- POSSIBLE ELEANOR OF AQUITAINE LINK--

My key suppositions ref earliest Le Bel family in England.

I checked Frensham Surrey data where Beale family had lived for years. Early data in Victoria History of Surrey p.609 said first family member in Surrey was Richard of London, son of Hugh le Bel. I found in these early Surrey records that Hugh le Bel was father of Richard of London, and they held property in Frensham. see footnote 5

I found a Hugh who I believe was the father of Richard of London mentioned above. He was son of Adeliza of Clermont, whose grandson was the knight Strongbow. see footnote 1
I found Richard of London acquired the town of Fetland in Ireland, this property had previously been in the hands of Strongbow, his son-in-law knight William Marshal and King John. see footnote 3

Adeliza of Clermont also had a son Hervey in Ireland, he was the brother of Hugh and the uncle of Strongbow and of Richard of London. see footnote 1

King Henry II (Eleanor’s husband) promised Strongbow’s daughter to knight William Marshal , a friend of Eleanor of Aquitaine. see footnote 4 and footnote 15
William Marshal in 1189 married into a family that owned Mapledurham, where Richard le Bel lived. see bottom of footnote 4

Eleanor’s son King John in 1204 established control of Priors Dean. see footnote 16

Priors Dean was Terra Regis (Kings land). see footnote 12

In 1347 Richard le Beel outlines land he rented from the King (and others) in Mapledurham and la Dene. He and wife rented 2 dwelling houses of 60 acres each (Weston & Petersfield) for a total of 120 acres in Mapledurham and I dwelling house and 60 acres in La Dene. see footnote 17
“In the 13th, and up to the 18th century, there was in Priors Dean a family of some importance, that of the le Bel, Bele or Beal”....”Richard le BEEL held of the king in capite.” ----which means “by which either person or land was held immediately of the king, or of his crown, either by knight-service or socage. A holder of a capite is termed a tenant-in-chief.” see footnote 13

NOTE---la Dene was the name of Priors Dean in the xii cent., suggesting that the Le Bels held land there at that date. see footnote 11. This is consistent with Richard le Bel court case stating family lived in Priors Dean and served King John. see www.geobeale.com/GB44.htm


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ELEANOR OF AQUITAINE---
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ELEANOR MARRIED KING OF FRANCE---

“On 25 July 1137 Louis VII of France and Eleanor were married in the Cathedral of Saint-André in Bordeaux by the archbishop of Bordeaux----However, after the birth of her second daughter Alix, Louis agreed to an annulment, as 15 years of marriage had not produced a son-----The marriage was annulled on 21 March 1152” see www.geobeale.com/GB64.htm


“Eleanor of Aquitaine was queen consort of France (1137–1152)” see www.geobeale.com/GB64.htm


1148- MATTHEW LE BEL WORKED FOR KING LOUIS VII OF FRANCE—
1148- but the King, who had promised to send him there, ... to govern and settle the affairs of the Kingdom during his absence. ...Concerning the souls of St. Brice, whom Matthew le Bel Lord of Villiers remitted into the hands of Thibaud Eefque de Paris, to give the prior to the Church of St. Louis. martin des champs: with the consent of Amaury Bel his son aisne and Isabeau his wife, adam his other son, Raoul & Jean the bel his brothers. for the young King Louys being at that time in the ter-saint, MATHIEU Lord of Montmorency not only will possess the third part of this gift, which was held by him in his soul, see www.geobeale.com/GB64.htm dna26p.511

ELEANOR MAY HAVE KNOWN MATTHEW LE BEL WHO SERVED HER HUSBAND IN FRANCE

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ELEANOR MARRIED KING OF ENGLAND IN 1152--- see www.geobeale.com/GB63.htm dna26p.451


“Eleanor became engaged to the duke of Normandy, who became King Henry II of England in 1154. .... The couple married on Whitsun, 18 May 1152---On 25 October 1154, Henry became king of England.... Eleanor of Aquitaine was queen consort of England (1154–1189) “ see www.geobeale.com/GB64.htm


ca 1171---“all of the relevant Norman lords, as well as many Irish princes and chiefs, swore fealty to the King of England, recognizing him as their overlord. Eleanor had become Lady of Ireland--- “ see footnote 2-

HERVEY (UNCLE OF RICHARD OF LONDON) SERVED KING OF ENGLAND IN IRELAND--
" Hervey and Strongbow invaded Ireland together ca 1171. Hervey “ was sent by his nephew, Earl Richard (Strongbow), to Ireland with Robert FitzStephen in 1169 to report on affairs there to the earl.”
see https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Mount-Maurice,_Hervey_de_(DNB00)
see www.geobeale.com/GB62.htm dna20p.191
Strongbow “proceeded to Waterford, when he found his uncle, Hervey de Monte Maurice, had just arrived from England, with letters from the king...” (IN 1171--THE KING WAS HENRY II---ELEANORS HUSBAND)
https://archive.org/stream/3754681/3754681_djvu.txt dna20p.204

 

ELEANOR PROBABLY KNEW HERVEY WHO SERVED HER HUSBAND IN IRELAND, AS SHE WAS LADY OF IRELAND

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EL IMPRISONED BY HER HUSBAND 1174-1189---- no news from her or le Bels during this time. see footnote 8


1176---King Henry II favorite son (with Eleanor) was John. Henry provided inheritance for John “part of which were the manors of Mapledurham and Petersfield.”
see footnote 9---hen ii gives john Mapledurham

1189----in his last days, King Henry II promised Strongbows daughter to William Marshal as his bride to be, thus giving William huge amounts of real estate. see footnote 15, footnote 6

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EL SET FREE AFTER DEATH OF HER HUSBAND IN 1189

William marshal set Eleanor free after 15 years in prison. see footnote 10

In 1189 her son King Richard took action--- “Eleanor was immediately appointed Regent of England and she moved quickly to London to undertake the business of government” see footnote 10

In 1190 King Richard included William Marshal on his Council of Regency. see footnote 15

Eleanor’s son John took over as king in 1199, following the death of her son Richard.

king John, Willam Marshal, and Richard of London became involved in Ireland ca 1200 :

William Marshal was awarded land in Wexford, Ireland by King John in 1200. see footnote 3

In 1200 Willam Marshal set up the Cistercian Tinturn Abbey very close (6.6km north) of the town of Fethard. see footnote 3


(Background prior 1200-- Herve married Isabel de Beaumont (mistress of Henry I), her 1st husband was Gilbert de Clare, father of Strongbow.
Hervey and Strongbow invaded Ireland together ca 1171. Hervey “ was sent by his nephew, Earl Richard, to Ireland ...”
Strongbow was made Lord of Leinster, which covered large chunks of land including Wexford, Westmeath, and Wicklow
Hervey granted land in Wexford to the Cistercians, which included Fethard
Fethard, Wexford---Wexford was granted to Strongbow in 1174 when he became lord of Leinster. Some of this land (Fethard) may have been given to his uncle Hervey. Hervey gave this land to Christ Church, Canterbury prior his death.
Richard of London was given Fethard, Wexford, Ireland which “was probably included in the grant of Hervey Mount Maurice...Hervey gave the land to the monks of Christ Church, Canterbury”) footnote 3

In the same year 1200, the Cistercian Christ church awarded Richard of London the town of Fethard
. see footnote 3

It is most likely that Eleanor of Aquitaine who was Queen of Ireland in 1171 and Regent of England in 1189 would be aware of some of the Ireland transactions that I have noted.


Eleanor of Aquitaine married Henry II, who was a le Bel. Were the le Bels I have been researching related to Henry II's le Bel family ?







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Footnote 1---------BACKGROUND ON LE BEL—see also---- www.geobeale.com/GB62.htm
HERE ARE THE PARENTS OF HUGH, FATHER OF RICHARD OF LONDON, LATER NAMED RICHARD LE BEL:

1)- BOUCHARD IV DE MONTMORENCY (1077-1132) married after 1114 ADELIZA DE CLERMONT (1075e-1125e)
Bouchard IV de Montmorency (1077-1132)-- His third wife was Adeliza de Clermont (1075e-1125e), he was her second husband.
http://www.geni.com/people/Bouchard-IV-baron-de-Montmorency/6000000003219690 -----dna20p.183, dna21p.348
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc429810561 (dna25pp.98,96)
(records of this marriage and children are at the Thorney Monastery in Cambridgeshire, Huntingdon, England) GB62

THEY HAD THREE SONS---HERVE (b 1115e), HUGO (b 1116e) and GUY (b 1117e)
Adeliza had three sons by her second husband Bouchard IV, they were Herve, Hugo and Guy. (I believe Hugo was the father of Richard of London (b 1135e), later named Richard le Bel)
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc429810561 see footnote [607]----dna20p.177, pd26, ---dna21p.348

2)- ADELIZA BY HER FIRST HUSBAND HAD A GRANDSON RICHARD DE CLARE (1130-1176, a Knight named STRONGBOW)
Adeliza’s grandson by her first marriage was Richard de Clare (1130-1176), a famous knight that helped capture Ireland in 1171. His nickname was “Strongbow”.
http://www.geni.com/people/Richard-de-Clare-2nd-Earl-of-Pembroke/6000000001446542148 ---dna21p.349, 469

3)- ADELIZA’S FAMILY AND FRIENDS WERE IN IRELAND---STRONGBOW (grandson of Adeliza de Clermont) ----HERVEY (son of Adeliza )----RICHARD OF LONDON (my ancestor, son of Hugh, nephew of Hervey, grandson of Adeliza, cousin of Strongbow)-----WILLIAM MARSHALL (famous Knight who married Strongbow's daughter)---RICHARD TUITE (ancestor of Richard Tuite who owned St Croix platation my ancestor George Beale managed in 1765). GB62

LE BEL SERVED KING OF ENGLAND--
" Hervey and Strongbow invaded Ireland together ca 1171. Hervey “ was sent by his nephew, Earl Richard (Strongbow), to Ireland with Robert FitzStephen in 1169 to report on affairs there to the earl.”
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Mount-Maurice,_Hervey_de_(DNB00) ------dna20p.191 GB62
Strongbow “proceeded to Waterford, when he found his uncle, Hervey de Monte Maurice, had just arrived from England, with letters from the king...” (ELEANORS HUSBAND)
https://archive.org/stream/3754681/3754681_djvu.txt -----dna20p.204

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footnote 2---El lady of Ire
http://garethrussellcidevant.blogspot.com/2011/10/woman-out-of-legend-life-of-eleanor-of.html
Strongbow could not become a king - it would weaken Henry's own primacy in the British Isles and that could not be allowed to happen. Henry’s six-month stay in Ireland produced the desired result: all of the relevant Norman lords, as well as many Irish princes and chiefs, swore fealty to the King of England, recognising him as their overlord. Eleanor had become Lady of Ireland and nine centuries of controversy had begun. 520B

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footnote 3-- fetland---
GB62
RICHARD OF LONDON IN IRELAND—HE WAS GIVEN TOWN OF FETHARD, CO. WEXFORD
Background of Fethard, Wexford---Wexford was granted to Strongbow in 1174 when he became lord of Leinster. Some of this land (Fethard) may have been given to his uncle Hervey. Hervey gave this land to Christ Church, Canterbury prior his death. The church gave Fethard to Herveys nephew Richard of London in 1200.
Richard of London was given Fethard, Wexford, Ireland which “was probably included in the grant of Hervey Mount Maurice...Hervey gave the land to the monks of Christ Church, Canterbury” XXXXXXX
https://books.google.com/books?id=Ej5aAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA377&lpg=PA377&dq=cistercian----convent+of+fethard+fethard,+co+wexford&source=bl&ots=Ve9PgpZBCV&sig=-vbUAushRtYr7sDVJx02EQYYfiM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CC8Q6AEwA2oVChMI3am4wfCYyQIVBmseCh24bgYo#v=onepage&q=cistercian----convent%20of%20fethard%20fethard%2C%20co%20wexford&f=false .....dna21p.501, 433, 429
In 1200, the town of Fethard, Wexford was given to Richard of London by Christ Church, Canterbury.
https://books.google.com/books?id=08APVsLCJ4QC&pg=PA360&lpg=PA360&dq=%22richard+of+london%22&source=bl&ots=3xENTzSzUs&sig=ADFe3QrNaNZ52s2a72H6J14fuE0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgUahUKEwjMwYnSquLGAhXGaT4KHZe4Dfw#v=onepage&q=%22richard%20of%20london%22&f=false -----dna21p.422
Fethard is in an area contolled by Strongbow in 1174 as lord of Leinster.
https://books.google.com/books?id=2TxLAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA566&lpg=PA566&dq=%22william+marshal%22+%22+fethard&source=bl&ots=Y4kEyj9SFT&sig=LcuEgYKfShU2PusW4mieDOP1fPE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi0lrib1aDJAhWFOT4KHbfHCDc4ChDoAQgoMAM#v=onepage&q=%22william%20marshal%22%20%22%20fethard&f=false ------dna21p.442,449
Leinster included Wexford, Westmeath and Wicklow, etc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leinster --- areas of leinster -------dna21p.450

GB56
OK, what de we know about Adeliza’s son Herve/Hervey, last name was variously Mount-Maurice/ Monte Marisco/ Montmorenci ?
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Mount-Maurice,_Hervey_de_(DNB00) -----dna20p.191

Hervey was the uncle of Richard de Clare (1130-1176), nickname “Strongbow” (Adeliza’s grandson)

Herve married Isabel de Beaumont (mistress of Henry I), her 2nd husband was Gilbert de Clare, father of Strongbow. XXXXXXXX
http://www.geni.com/people/Isabel-de-Beaumont-Concubine-15-of-Henry-I-Countess-of-Pembroke/6000000005598851433 ------dna21p.512
http://www.geni.com/people/Gilbert-FitzGilbert-de-Clare/6000000003146930329 ------dna21p.469, 460

Hervey and Strongbow invaded Ireland together ca 1171. Hervey “ was sent by his nephew, Earl Richard, to Ireland with Robert FitzStephen in 1169 to report on affairs there to the earl.” XXXXXXX
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Mount-Maurice,_Hervey_de_(DNB00) ------dna20p.191

Strongbow was made Lord of Leinster, which covered large chunks of land including Wexford, Westmeath, and Wicklow XXXXXXXXXXX
http://www.geni.com/people/Gilbert-FitzGilbert-de-Clare/6000000003146930329 -----dna21p.460
http://www.castlewales.com/is_clare.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leinster --- areas of leinster----dna21p.450

Hervey granted land in Wexford to the Cistercians, which included Fethard XXXXXXXXXX
http://www.ancient-egypt.co.uk/Cistercians/Tintern%20de%20Voto/index.htm ---dna20p.88
https://books.google.com/books?id=Ej5aAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA377&lpg=PA377&dq=cistercian----convent+of+fethard+fethard,+co+wexford&source=bl&ots=Ve9PgpZBCV&sig=-vbUAushRtYr7sDVJx02EQYYfiM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CC8Q6AEwA2oVChMI3am4wfCYyQIVBmseCh24bgYo#v=onepage&q=cistercian----convent%20of%20fethard%20fethard%2C%20co%20wexford&f=false ----dna21p.433
Richard of London was given Fethard, Wexford, Ireland which “was probably included in the grant of Hervey Mount Maurice...Hervey gave the land to the monks of Christ Church, Canterbury”
https://books.google.com/books?id=Ej5aAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA377&lpg=PA377&dq=cistercian----convent+of+fethard+fethard,+co+wexford&source=bl&ots=Ve9PgpZBCV&sig=-vbUAushRtYr7sDVJx02EQYYfiM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CC8Q6AEwA2oVChMI3am4wfCYyQIVBmseCh24bgYo#v=onepage&q=cistercian----convent%20of%20fethard%20fethard%2C%20co%20wexford&f=false .....dna21p.501, 433, 429
In 1200, the town of Fethard, Wexford was given to Richard of London by Christ Church, Canterbury.
https://books.google.com/books?id=08APVsLCJ4QC&pg=PA360&lpg=PA360&dq=%22richard+of+london%22&source=bl&ots=3xENTzSzUs&sig=ADFe3QrNaNZ52s2a72H6J14fuE0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgUahUKEwjMwYnSquLGAhXGaT4KHZe4Dfw#v=onepage&q=%22richard%20of%20london%22&f=false -----dna21p.422
Fethard is in an area contolled by Strongbow in 1174 as lord of Leinster.
https://books.google.com/books?id=2TxLAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA566&lpg=PA566&dq=%22william+marshal%22+%22+fethard&source=bl&ots=Y4kEyj9SFT&sig=LcuEgYKfShU2PusW4mieDOP1fPE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi0lrib1aDJAhWFOT4KHbfHCDc4ChDoAQgoMAM#v=onepage&q=%22william%20marshal%22%20%22%20fethard&f=false ------dna21p.442,449
Leinster included Wexford, Westmeath and Wicklow
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leinster --- areas of leinster -------dna21p.450

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footnote 4--- wm marshal---GB56

STRONGBOW’s DAUGHTER ISABEL DE CLARE MARRIED WILLIAM MARSHAL:

Strongbow’s daughter Isabel married William Marshal (1146-1219), a knight who helped conquer Ireland.
http://www.castlewales.com/marshall.html --------dna20p.89

William Marshal was awarded land in Wexford by King John in 1200. XXXXXXX
http://www.ancient-egypt.co.uk/Cistercians/Tintern%20de%20Voto/index.htm -----dna20p.89, 88, dna21p.459

In 1200 Willam Marshal set up the Cistercian Tinturn Abbey very close (6.6km north) of the town of Fethard. XXXXXXXXXX
http://www.ancient-egypt.co.uk/Cistercians/Tintern%20de%20Voto/index.htm ------dna20p.88, 89
In the same year 1200, the Cistercian Christ church awarded Richard of London the town of Fethard. XXXXXXXXX
https://books.google.com/books?id=08APVsLCJ4QC&pg=PA360&lpg=PA360&dq=%22richard+of+london%22&source=bl&ots=3xENTzSzUs&sig=ADFe3QrNaNZ52s2a72H6J14fuE0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgUahUKEwjMwYnSquLGAhXGaT4KHZe4Dfw#v=onepage&q=%22richard%20of%20london%22&f=false -----dna21p.422

STRONGBOW’s DAUGHTER ISABEL DE CLARE MARRIED WILLIAM MARSHAL:

Strongbow’s daughter Isabel married William Marshal (1146-1219), a knight who helped conquer Ireland.
http://www.castlewales.com/marshall.html --------dna20p.89

William Marshal was awarded land in Wexford by King John in 1200.
http://www.ancient-egypt.co.uk/Cistercians/Tintern%20de%20Voto/index.htm -----dna20p.89, 88, dna21p.459

In 1200 Willam Marshal set up the Cistercian Tinturn Abbey very close (6.6km north) of the town of Fethard.
http://www.ancient-egypt.co.uk/Cistercians/Tintern%20de%20Voto/index.htm ------dna20p.88, 89
In the same year 1200, the Cistercian Christ church awarded Richard of London the town of Fethard.
https://books.google.com/books?id=08APVsLCJ4QC&pg=PA360&lpg=PA360&dq=%22richard+of+london%22&source=bl&ots=3xENTzSzUs&sig=ADFe3QrNaNZ52s2a72H6J14fuE0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgUahUKEwjMwYnSquLGAhXGaT4KHZe4Dfw#v=onepage&q=%22richard%20of%20london%22&f=false -----dna21p.422

William Marshall’s sister Margaret Marshal (1154-1242) married Ralph de Somery (1151-1210). Ralph’s sister was Alice Somery, who married Richard le Bel (1150-1226), also known as Richard of London
dna22p.120 , http://www.geobeale.com/GB43.htm
THUS WILLIAM MARSHAL HAD A SISTER WHOSE HUSBAND HAD A SISTER WHO MARRIED RICHARD LE BEL

ADDITIONAL MARSHAL LINKS TO RICHARD LE BEL-
William Marshall’s daughter Isabel Marshall (1200-1240) married Gilbert de Clare (1180-1230). 349 Gilbert, his sons Richard & William, and his grandson Gilbert all inherited Mapledurham, Hants where Richard le Bel lived for many years.

Richard le Bel lived in Mapledurham and Priors Dean, Hants for many years, having once served King John.
www.geobeale.com/GB44

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WILLIAM MARSHAL MARRIED STRONGBOW’s DAUGHTER ISABEL DE CLARE IN 1189:
Strongbow’s daughter Isabel married William Marshal (1146-1219), a famous knight who helped conquer Ireland. Isabel was one of the wealthiest heiresses in Ireland.
http://www.castlewales.com/marshall.html --------dna20p.89

William Marshal was awarded land in Wexford by King John in 1200.
http://www.ancient-egypt.co.uk/Cistercians/Tintern%20de%20Voto/index.htm -----dna20p.89, 88, dna21p.459

In 1200 Willam Marshal set up the Cistercian Tinturn Abbey very close (6.6km north) of the town of Fethard.
http://www.ancient-egypt.co.uk/Cistercians/Tintern%20de%20Voto/index.htm ------dna20p.88, 89

In the same year 1200, the Cistercian Christ church awarded Richard of London the town of Fethard.
https://books.google.com/books?id=08APVsLCJ4QC&pg=PA360&lpg=PA360&dq=%22richard+of+london%22&source=bl&ots=3xENTzSzUs&sig=ADFe3QrNaNZ52s2a72H6J14fuE0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgUahUKEwjMwYnSquLGAhXGaT4KHZe4Dfw#v=onepage&q=%22richard%20of%20london%22&f=false -----dna21p.422

William Marshal’s cousin Margaret Marshal (1154-1242) married Ralph de Somery (1151-1210). Ralph’s sister was Alice Somery, who married Richard le Bel (1160-1226), son of Richard of London.
dna22p.120 , http://www.geobeale.com/GB43.htm
THUS WILLIAM MARSHAL HAD A COUSIN WHOSE HUSBAND HAD A SISTER WHO MARRIED RICHARD LE BEL

William Marshal’s daughter Isabel Marshal (1200-1240) married Gilbert de Clare (1180-1230). 349 Gilbert, his sons Richard & William, and his grandson Gilbert all inherited Mapledurham, Hants where Richard le Bel lived for many years.

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footnote 5 -----Petri---559----GB63

http://archive.org/stream/rotuluscancella00commgoog/rotuluscancella00commgoog_djvu.txt

Et Ricardo de Londonia .11. s. et .vi. d. pro pannis Riegis cariandis a Norhantonia usque ad Londoniam per breve Godefridi filii Petri.

my translation-----

and Ricardo from London for the King's clothes, carrying Northampton to London through a writ of Godefridi filii Petri.
(The above was during the time of King John. Petri was managing King John’s affairs. I note Petri appears again ref Richard of London, see next)

INVOLVED IN FERNHAM LAND:
1)- Richard of London, son of Hugh le Bel--owned land Frensham, Surrey ca 1190 (Victoria History of Surrey p.609)
The Great Roll of the Pipe—King Henry the Second
2)- Ricardus de Lond son of Hugonis (Hugh) le Bel-- land in Fermesham with appurtances ca 1210. Pleas Galfridi F. Petri (dna20resp.125 and pd tab aug14)
The Pipe Roll of the Bishopric of Winchester 1210-1211, pp. 38-39
(Petri appears to be an attorney, or judge during the time of King John. Petri is involved in both of Richard of London events---King’s clothes and Frensham land. )

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footnote 6---hen ii to wm marshal---540, 526

in 1189 During Henry II last days 526 he made good on his promise to wm marshal of the hand of isabel de clare, daughter of strongbow. marshal acquired large estates in england, wales, normamdy and ireland. wm stayed in ireland until 1213. he was loyal to king john. 526


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footnote 7—hen ii ----john gets IRE---520B
http://garethrussellcidevant.blogspot.com/2011/10/woman-out-of-legend-life-of-eleanor-of.html
Plans were being made for the other children’s marriages and to start preparing various parts of the empire for the boys – as it stood, Young Henry was expected to inherit England, Normandy and Anjou; Richard, as his mother’s favourite, would get the Aquitaine; Geoffrey would be married to Constance, the sole heiress to the Duke of Brittany, and John would get Ireland. Henry II, looking confidently into the future, saw nothing but success for his lineage and, apparently, a game of happy families. The great king was totally and utterly oblivious to the resentment brewing all around him, particularly in his wife and his eldest son.


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footnote 8—El in jail
http://garethrussellcidevant.blogspot.com/2011/10/woman-out-of-legend-life-of-eleanor-of.html
Whatever the reason, Eleanor’s decision to rebel cost her dearly. She spent the next fifteen years of her life as her husband’s prisoner, occasionally trotted out for grand public displays to celebrate the farcical unity of the royal family. In those fifteen years, the world passed Eleanor of Aquitaine by. For most of her adult life she had stood near the centre of some of the great events of the medieval period, but now she was no longer relevant. For a woman who had always mattered, this must have been galling.

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footnote 9---hen ii gives john Mapledurham ---535

http://www.petersfieldhistoricalsociety.org/news/31-king-john-petersfield

With the 800th anniversary of the Magna Carta taking place this year, it is interesting to remind ourselves of King John’s association with Petersfield. Born in 1167, he was the fourth son of Henry II and as such was not expected to inherit significant lands; indeed he was given the nickname of “John Lackland”. Though he grew up to be a weak and unscrupulous character whom few trusted, he was Henry II’s favourite son and Henry made every attempt to provide an inheritance for him, part of which were the manors of Mapledurham and Petersfield.

In 1120 Petersfield was granted a charter by William, Earl of Gloucester and on his death his widow, Hawissa, confirmed it. The Gloucesters were very wealthy and extremely close to the royal family as Richard’s father, Robert, was a son of Henry I.

However in 1176, after the death of Hawissa, Henry II disinherited the two elder daughters of William and Hawissa in favour of their younger daughter, Isabella, to whom he betrothed his son John. It was for this reason, in the face of convention that Prince John, Count of Moreton as he was then known, came to confirm the charter of the manor of Petersfield in 1198, which had been bestowed upon him by marriage.

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footnote 10---el freed by marshal---540

after death of Henry II in 1189---el had been in jail 15 years

http://garethrussellcidevant.blogspot.com/2011/12/lady-of-two-kingdoms-life-of-eleanor-of.html

The Middle Ages is one of the very few eras in history in which scenes from a fairy tale can come close to reality. One such scene took place at the height of summer in 1189 when a man called William Marshal, later described by the Archbishop of Canterbury as 'the greatest knight who ever lived', strode into the presence of the imprisoned Queen Mother of England and informed her that she was free at last. There was certainly a moment of sublime poetic fulfilment when William Marshal handed Eleanor of Aquitaine her freedom, because over twenty years earlier she had done the same thing for him. Long before he had won his reputation as the greatest jouster of the century and before he had distinguished himself by going on Crusade for a dead prince

But the Eleanor who emerged back into the world in 1189 was a very different one to the woman who had been shut away from it in 1174. She was now an old woman, particularly by the standards of her day; she was already well into her sixties. Her first husband, Louis VII, had been dead for nearly nine years, having been succeeded by his son from his third marriage...

If Eleanor felt anything at losing the husband who had been her lover, partner, spouse and jailer, she gave very little sign of it. Regrets or looking back are not things that Eleanor of Aquitaine seems to have overly bothered herself with. In many ways she had the final victory over Henry, not just by outliving him but by having him buried in Fontevrault - her burial ground. A magnificent structure rising splendidly out of the beautiful scenery of the Loire Valley, Fontevrault had been founded in 1100 by Eleanor's grandmother, Philippa of Toulouse, Duchess of the Aquitaine, and formally dedicated to the Virgin Mary.

Richard had been in France when he heard the news that his father was dead and he was now King of England, Lord of Ireland, Duke of Normandy, Duke of Aquitaine, Duke of Gascony, Count of Anjou, Count of Maine and Count of Nantes. It would take him some time to make the journey back to England for his coronation and in his absence, he showed his trust and love for his mother by giving her the power that both of her husbands had denied her. Freed from captivity, Eleanor was immediately appointed Regent of England and she moved quickly to London to undertake the business of government. And for someone who technically had very little experience of ruling in her own right, Eleanor showed herself to be remarkably good at it in a remarkably short period of time. It leaves the historian wondering what her husbands might have been able to achieve with her at their side, if they had only trusted her enough. The monk and chronicler, Matthew Paris, later wrote that Eleanor's time as Regent after her son's accession made her 'exceedingly respected and beloved' by the people.

Once the drama and tragedy of the coronation was behind them, Eleanor, now her son's closest confidante and adviser, strongly promoted the idea that Richard, thirty-two years-old and still unmarried, should find a wife before going on Crusade. At six foot five in height, muscular, broad-shouldered and, like both of his parents, handsome and charismatic, Richard was not exactly an unattractive bridegroom. Of course, in the realm of European royal matchmaking, .... Richard showed himself prepared to do his duty for England when he and his mother met with a council in Normandy to discuss the royal marriage.

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footnote 11---- le bel owned land mapledurham and la dene--

10)- 1347 death of Richard le Beel---his wife Joan, 19 yr old son Richard. Held land in Weston and Petersfield in the Manor of Mapledurham, and land in La Dene in the prior of Suthewyk.
See Dropbox ???? (get fm 1/9/14 PD evanrandolph3.doc), includes lots of additional data on wife Joan and Richard le Bel dna19p.43 bottom GB53 532, 535

https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/hants/vol4/pp436-437

PRIORS DEAN 541
Ladene, Dene (xii cent.); Priors Dene, Priorsdeane (xvi cent.); Dean Prior, Priors Dean (xviii cent.).


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footnote 12----- terra regis-- dna25p.353

https://books.google.com/books?id=HHQ1AQAAIAAJ&pg=PA55&lpg=PA55&dq=priors+dene--terra+regis&source=bl&ots=kMqK9MmBF5&sig=EO1rwlARnxTeBwljJcuiobFnisg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Xj5OVenSDMGeNsPFgPAO&ved=0CBQQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=priors%20dene--terra%20regis&f=false

p.54---Domesday returns show Maplederham (Buriton and Petersfield) belonged to Queen Matilda...this plus Priors Dean, belonged to William the Conqueror in 1086.

p.55---Priors Dean is placed among the king's lands, Terra Regis...

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footnote 13---- family of some importance----in capite

A HISTORY OF THE UNITED PARISHES OF COLMER AND PRIORS DEAN 532

“In the 13th, and up to the 18th century, there was in Priors Dean a family of some importance, that of the le Bel, Bele or Beal. Richard le Bel is one of the jurors named in the last document, and he was a witness of others.”....Inquisition taken at his death in 1346...”Richard le BEEL held of the king in capite.” 533

googled capite--- 535
Capite. In old English law, a capite (from Latin caput, head) was a tenure, abolished by Act 12 Chas. II, xxiv. (Tenures Abolition Act 1660), by which either person or land was held immediately of the king, or of his crown, either by knight-service or socage. A holder of a capite is termed a tenant-in-chief.

google socage
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noun: socage; noun: soccage
a feudal tenure of land involving payment of rent or other nonmilitary service to a superior

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footnote 14------richard le bel priors dean connected to Frensham family 535

LE BEL---
We discovered a 1266 Winchester Castle Court case in which Richard le Bel states that he (and others) and their ancestors had lived in Priors Dean, Hants and served King John. They objected to being taxed more. They won the case.
-- NEW DATA 12 APRIL 2014
(Priors Dean is 3.8 miles south of Selborne).

" The following is a list of the Vicars of Basingstoke, instituted to the Vicarage on the presentation of the Prior and Convent of Selborne, with the precise date of their institution if extant : SiMONj named as Vicar in 1244 in the ordination or composition drawn up by Bishop William de Raleigh. * Sir Peteb occurs in 1250 as its Vicar, and Richard le Bel, in 1277 — a member of a well-known family of that name, located at Frensham, in Surrey."---dna 13- p. 25

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footnote 15------- wm marshal mar dau of stongbow 1189

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Marshal,_1st_Earl_of_Pembroke

Nonetheless after Henry's death, Marshal was welcomed at court by his former adversary, now King Richard I, who was wise to include a man whose legendary loyalty and military accomplishments were too useful to ignore, especially in a king who was intending to go on Crusade.[2]

During the old king's last days he had promised the Marshal the hand and estates of Isabel de Clare (c.1172–1220), but had not completed the arrangements. King Richard however, confirmed the offer and so in August 1189, at the age of 43, the Marshal married the 17-year-old daughter of Richard de Clare (Strongbow). Her father had been Earl of Pembroke, and Marshal acquired large estates and claims in England, Wales, Normandy and Ireland. Some estates however were excluded from the deal. Marshal did not obtain Pembroke and the title of earl, which his father-in-law had enjoyed, until 1199, as it had been taken into the king's hand in 1154. However, the marriage transformed the landless knight from a minor family into one of the richest men in the kingdom, a sign of his power and prestige at court.

William Marshal was included in the council of regency which King Richard appointed on his departure for the Third Crusade in 1190 (as was EL---“Eleanor was immediately appointed Regent of England “ by Richard at this time)
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Footnote 16-----King John and Priors Dean

https://books.google.com/books?id=HHQ1AQAAIAAJ&pg=PA65&lpg=PA65&dq=king+john+established+priors+dean,+england&source=bl&ots=kNrOhGoIK5&sig=fGARZJWqtUXDQg3u5sqTWC1zyNs&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjQ-eS_zMDfAhXLmVkKHdyfDxgQ6AEwEHoECAAQAQ#v=onepage&q=king%20john%20established%20priors%20dean%2C%20england&f=false

The history of the parishes and manor of Colmer and Priors Dean: in the ...

By Thomas Hervey

p 71----richard de la Dih holds 20 ac land, 4 of wood---boarme cumbe, piperland
p 69---1204 king john issues inquisition-----to sheriff of southampton—canons full seizure lands of dene
71-----rents of various tennants---richard old de la fosse---piperland—richard de la dih holds 20 acres of land and 4 of wood
72-----and barnecombe and hyndecombe

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Footnote 17---

from 1/9/14 PD evanrandolph3.doc---
here is part of above:

Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem and other analogous documents,
Volume VIII, Edward III
Page 478, Item 653 Richard Le Beel.
Writ 20 September, 20 Edward III (NB the number 20 before Edward signifies the 20th year of his reign)
Southampton. Inq. Thursday after St Luke, 20 Edward III
Westynton in the Manor of Mapledurham. A moiety of a messuage &c. 60a. arable, 4a. meadow and 37s 10½d. rent, held jointly with Joan his wife, who still survives, and their heirs, of the king in chief by service of coming twice a year to the view of frankplege at Mapelderham.
Petresfield in the manor of Mapelderham. A messuage, 60a. arable, 4a. meadow, 1a. alder grove and 2s 6d rent from two free tenants, held of the earl of Gloucester by service of 2s and suit at the said earl’s court at Mapelderham every three weeks; and there are paid yearly 17s 4d to the abbot of Dureford, and 4d to Roger de Petresfeld.
La Dene of the prior of Suthewyk. A messuage &c, 60a arable lying in the common fields, and 5a wood, held of the said prior by service of 6d yearly and suit at the prior’s court at La Dene every three weeks.
He died on 15 April, 20 Edward III. Richard his son, aged 19 years and more, is his next heir.

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misc le Bel activity during this time that probably was unknown to Eleanor. See footnote 5 for further details.

Ricardo de Londonia carrying clothes from Northants to London for King John per instructions of Godefridi filii Petri.
http://archive.org/stream/rotuluscancella00commgoog/rotuluscancella00commgoog_djvu.txt ------ (dna20p.59B) GB56

and Ricardo from London for the King's clothes, carrying Northampton to London through a writ of Godefridi filii Petri.
(The above was during the time of King John. Petri was managing King John’s affairs. I note Petri appears again ref Richard of London, see next) ---- footnote petri-----GB63

2)- Ricardus de Lond son of Hugonis (Hugh) le Bel-- land in Fermesham with appurtances ca 1210. Pleas Galfridi F. Petri (dna20resp.125 and pd tab aug14)
The Pipe Roll of the Bishopric of Winchester 1210-1211, pp. 38-39
(Petri appears to be an attorney, or judge during the time of King John. Petri is involved in both of Richard of London events---King’s clothes and Frensham land. )
footnote petri-----GB63

er---add matthew I marriages to els friend